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Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Mon May 17, 2021 9:57 pm

Battery technology will happen. Diesel electric technology for small auto transportation could have happened decades ago if not for Detroit lobbying.

Kenworth had prototype diesel-electric highway trucks. As did Freightliner. In 1980 a d/e W900 hauled three loads of logs from Raymond to Aberdeen at normal road speeds for the time, using around 1/3 the fuel of the traditional powertrain. Where it went nobody seems to know.

Freightliner has had self driving trucks in NW Oregon for years.

It’s coming.

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 5:00 am

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Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 5:02 am

zipties wrote:Battery technology will happen. Diesel electric technology for small auto transportation could have happened decades ago if not for Detroit lobbying.

Kenworth had prototype diesel-electric highway trucks. As did Freightliner. In 1980 a d/e W900 hauled three loads of logs from Raymond to Aberdeen at normal road speeds for the time, using around 1/3 the fuel of the traditional powertrain. Where it went nobody seems to know.

Freightliner has had self driving trucks in NW Oregon for years.

It’s coming.


Yeah whats keeping the Over the Road trucks from going Diesel/electric is the weight of the power plant.

GVW of the whole mess (truck, trailer, load) still cant be above 80k.

Semi's have aluminum wheels for a reason and its not the Cool Factor.

Freight trains dont seem to have that restriction.

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 7:56 am

zipties wrote:
golddigger14s wrote:.

It really torques my bolts when people continue to post this sort of thing on the internet. That is a backup EG for whatever that comm unit is next to it in the photo. Will auto transfer upon loss of station service. It could be for a business but appears more like a small cell hub or the like.

It is a byproduct of the small Australian company who did build diesel powered EV charging stations in remote roadhouses as part of a beta test to see if EVs, Tesla’s in particullar could make it on long range trips and to promote EV use in the Outback.

Calm down people it's a meme/joke.

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 8:06 am

golddigger14s wrote:
zipties wrote:
golddigger14s wrote:.

It really torques my bolts when people continue to post this sort of thing on the internet. That is a backup EG for whatever that comm unit is next to it in the photo. Will auto transfer upon loss of station service. It could be for a business but appears more like a small cell hub or the like.

It is a byproduct of the small Australian company who did build diesel powered EV charging stations in remote roadhouses as part of a beta test to see if EVs, Tesla’s in particullar could make it on long range trips and to promote EV use in the Outback.

Calm down people it's a meme/joke.


I was gonna say: "IT'S JOKE SON"

EV people wound up tight.

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 8:30 am

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Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 11:19 am

I don't see it as a joke. There's no humor involved, it's just flat-out misinformation, trying to sway people's opinions.

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 11:38 am

MadPick wrote:I don't see it as a joke. There's no humor involved, it's just flat-out misinformation, trying to sway people's opinions.


You bought a Prius?

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 11:43 am

MadPick wrote:I don't see it as a joke. There's no humor involved, it's just flat-out misinformation, trying to sway people's opinions.


Welcome to the internet!

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 1:06 pm

Time for the world famous BHP Drew-ism.

PENIS !
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Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 1:12 pm

MadPick wrote:I don't see it as a joke. There's no humor involved, it's just flat-out misinformation, trying to sway people's opinions.

Ha! Go take a gander at the covid thread!

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 1:21 pm

WaJim wrote:Yeah whats keeping the Over the Road trucks from going Diesel/electric is the weight of the power plant.
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Freight trains dont seem to have that restriction.


It’s a different system too. Locos use the diesel to generate electricity, electric motors drive the wheels

On the trucks/buses they got overly complicated with the transmission and try to blend the power sources as well as recoup some of the energy on deceleration

Stoic could explain it better than I can. He and I have had conversations over beers about it

Apparently Allison has given up on trying to make those transmissions work, which basically orphaned a large number of vehicles. Any energy saved is eclipsed by all that waste

Not very green

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 5:41 pm

Note the date of the video is from March 18, 2011



https://youtu.be/tm8ATYxaYZI

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Tue May 18, 2021 5:48 pm

RocketScott wrote:
WaJim wrote:Yeah whats keeping the Over the Road trucks from going Diesel/electric is the weight of the power plant.
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Freight trains dont seem to have that restriction.


It’s a different system too. Locos use the diesel to generate electricity, electric motors drive the wheels

On the trucks/buses they got overly complicated with the transmission and try to blend the power sources as well as recoup some of the energy on deceleration

Stoic could explain it better than I can. He and I have had conversations over beers about it

Apparently Allison has given up on trying to make those transmissions work, which basically orphaned a large number of vehicles. Any energy saved is eclipsed by all that waste

Not very green


Again from 2011. A lot of engineering theory not quite backed up by real world use. Anything can be made to impress on paper. Or a CADCAM




https://youtu.be/zK8jyVXwwig

Re: "Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D

Tue May 18, 2021 5:55 pm

And my personal favorite / nemesis the EatonFuller hybrid drive. Weyco paid for me to go to Indiana to learn about this catastrophe. If you made to 2:00 without boredom or a headache I encourage you to entertain how anyone in a timberland corporation’s fleet dept thought any of this would be good for a log truck. I love being retired. For these kind of reasons.

https://youtu.be/EnL8rfzy7y8




It saves the planet though. Keep thinking it because it’s all coming back soon.
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