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The Rules-for-Thee-but-Not-for-We boys and girls having fun on the range with all the stuff YOU can't own:

https://notthebee.com/article/photograp ... dium=email

Cold range, and two of the "professionals" are monkey fucking weapons.

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Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:51 pm
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The Rules-for-Thee-but-Not-for-We boys and girls having fun on the range with all the stuff YOU can't own:

https://notthebee.com/article/photograp ... dium=email

Cold range, and two of the "professionals" are monkey fucking weapons.


That's a link worth clicking. Zero gun safety sense.

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Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:46 pm
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This seems rather cunt-y.

"One of the ATF officials – Special Agent Aaron Loving – told Harris’ attorney he was cleared of any wrongdoing. Harris’s attorney documented this conversation in a letter.

“Agent Loving has informed me that you are no longer the target of any criminal investigation, and there will not be any criminal prosecutions forthcoming,” the letter states."

but then:

"Last month, Special Agent Loving and his partner personally served a Notice of Revocation to Harris..."

"A few months later, Special Agent Loving recontacted Harris’ attorney, stating, “We need Tom to give up his license voluntarily. The bosses up the chain want him to turn in his license or face adverse actions,” Harris recalls his attorney saying."

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/07/atf-in ... L_CAMPAIGN)

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Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:09 pm
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We gotta be careful. If we let them start chipping away at small FFLs (tho Harris isn't exactly a small FFL) they will start taking bigger and bigger bites. Betting on leveraging FFLs fear of jail or spending a lot of money to fight false accusations. Eventually we will be down to big corporations being the only way to purchase firearms. And you can bet good money they will fold their firearm departments once the ATF targets them in their sights.

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jukk0u wrote:
This seems rather cunt-y.

"One of the ATF officials – Special Agent Aaron Loving – told Harris’ attorney he was cleared of any wrongdoing. Harris’s attorney documented this conversation in a letter.

“Agent Loving has informed me that you are no longer the target of any criminal investigation, and there will not be any criminal prosecutions forthcoming,” the letter states."

but then:

"Last month, Special Agent Loving and his partner personally served a Notice of Revocation to Harris..."

"A few months later, Special Agent Loving recontacted Harris’ attorney, stating, “We need Tom to give up his license voluntarily. The bosses up the chain want him to turn in his license or face adverse actions,” Harris recalls his attorney saying."

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/07/atf-in ... L_CAMPAIGN)


'Relinquish your license voluntarily or we'll kick in your door at 3am, kill your dog, and you may or may not live to tell about it'.

If I got a message like that from a federal agent... best believe all resources available to me while I'm still alive would be used to (COC VIOLATION) in hopes it gives them pause before they try that shit with someone else.

Fuckkkkk that shit..

They're creating the very extremists they're saying already exist...

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That and a felony in the case.

The one time I called to ask how to report gun safety for an OOB detonation, was told "We don't do gun safety". That person must hang with this agent.


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I called to ask how to report gun safety for an OOB detonation


Say what the fuck, over?

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chuckisduck wrote:

I called to ask how to report gun safety for an OOB detonation


Say what the fuck, over?


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Retribution? Vindictive persecution?

"Shortly after Morehouse Enterprises filed suit (against ATF with GOA as co-plaintiff on the receiver rule suit), the ATF launched an inspection of the gun shop. This ATF visit was the first inspection that the store ever received from the ATF. The Industry Operations Inspector (IOI), Jacob Temp, jokingly told the store owner that the ATF discussed whether the inspection would look like retaliation for the court case. The IOI said that the ATF originally would delay any inspection for at least three years, pending litigation, but the Bureau decided to inspect the store anyways."

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/retali ... L_CAMPAIGN)

Hahaha, Jacob. It's always funny to joke about the abuse of power to strip a citizen of their rights and livelihood, ya prick.

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Looks like the ATF is making it easer if this gets rolled back with Supreme Court. At 8:46 their filing states only two holes need to be drilled to complete their bicycle analogy. So the cavity for the fire control group should already be milled for an 80% lower and I need only drill two more holes? Sweet!

ATF just BLINKED and they’re SCARED AS HELL... On EVE of Alito stay expiration, ATF throws Hail Mary

https://youtu.be/gRX_cx6nt0U

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Looks like the ATF is making it easer if this gets rolled back with Supreme Court. At 8:46 their filing states only two holes need to be drilled to complete their bicycle analogy. So the cavity for the fire control group should already be milled for an 80% lower and I need only drill two more holes? Sweet!

ATF just BLINKED and they’re SCARED AS HELL... On EVE of Alito stay expiration, ATF throws Hail Mary

https://youtu.be/gRX_cx6nt0U



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Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:34 am
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Florida ATF investigator seizes FFL's book and full volume of 4473's. Takes them off-site to copy; returns them one week later.

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/atf-in ... L_CAMPAIGN)

No warrant.

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Florida ATF investigator seizes FFL's book and full volume of 4473's. Takes them off-site to copy; returns them one week later.

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/atf-in ... L_CAMPAIGN)

No warrant.



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'only one solution' :ROFLMAO:

Dude needs to think outside the box.

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If the ATF takes my records OFFSITE.....Don't even bother bringing them back.
They can be in charge of the retention of those records....PERIOD

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Looks like Betelguise Detelbach and the boys at AFT don't want y'all training:

https://soldiersystems.net/2023/10/04/u ... tf-ruling/

UTM Halts Sales of Training Ammunition to Civilians Due to ATF Ruling

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