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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4846
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Am I alone in thinking this is just plain common sense?
Ever been to a pawn shop? BARS, caged front door, guns visible on a laptop and able to be seen in person upon asking. Cameras everywhere.
Cant even buy a $50 car radio at walmart without someone unlocking it for you.
But many of the gun stores I go into are EASY targets. I mean cmon, my garage is locked up tighter than half of them.
Its a REAL problem. 15 year olds ramming stolen kias though the front doors and emptying out the places. It might not be right, but its HAPPENING.
LOCK YOUR SHIT UP. Put bollards out front, maybe even some eco blocks on the sidewalk. Bars everywhere.
I mean fuck, the same shop will recommend you buy a vest with plates in it to protect your organs from gunfire, but WONT armor their store???? WTF?
If I owned a gun shop, I wouldnt need this stupid law to tell me to be a paranoid fucker and get my shit tightened up.
Geez
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scollins
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Location: Renton Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 Posts: 16
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Old Growth wrote: Am I alone in thinking this is just plain common sense? Geez Yes, I think you are alone….
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Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:55 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21336
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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You've become far too comfortable with government scrutiny and invasion of your privacy and intrusion into your personal space. Your 'common sense" smacks of victim blaming. How many well hardened shops have been breached? Through, over, between bollards... or through the freaking side walls while alarms scream.
You want your conversations recorded? Do you wish to be on guard at all times hoping your words won't be misconstrued and used against you? "No, no, I didn't say Comrade Inslee was a bad leader! NO!!! I'll do anything!!!" is just a short way off. It happened throughout the last century and is happening in many countries today, so don't try to feed me the "you're being paranoid" shit. You're being complacent.
How about you/they take equal measure of effort to enforce current law, prosecute - not plea deal - meaningfully sentence and incarcerate actual criminals.
I was at a small strip mall recently and the walkways are now walled in with iron bars. This wasn't even for gun stores. Only ONE shop in the strip mall was still open. It looked and felt like a penitentiary.
No, I don't wish to live in a prison planet behind bars and under surveillance. CRIMINALS deserve that treatment.
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4846
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What if they passed a law requiring you to pack a firearm at all times to protect yourself from harm?
I dont disagree with you on many point juk, but thats not the reality of whats happening in society.
Im not to keen on the audio part of it all, but I have home video that will store more than 90 days of footage. BUt hey,we are typing this on a computer that is saving it forever all while having a phone nearby that is listening to anything you say anyways. Voluntarily
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:19 am |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5894
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The road to hell is paved with so-called good intentions.
The COVID jab was a seemingly well intentioned effort to get everyone jabbed, and they wanted to make it mandatory for everybody, and they tried really hard.
But even the Seattle Times disagreed with the law saying it placed onerous requirements on legal enterprises selling lawful items. Why don't we ever expend effort going after the bad guys? Like fentanyl getting in the country or millions of invaders entering our country? Why don't we have cameras on all the legislators going back two years?!? Or a log of all their phone calls or emails? Or all communications that go out of their offices? Or a record of all the lobbyists that meet with them I can view from a website?
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stompah
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Location: Renton Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2015 Posts: 2188
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Old Growth wrote: Am I alone in thinking this is just plain common sense?
Ever been to a pawn shop? BARS, caged front door, guns visible on a laptop and able to be seen in person upon asking. Cameras everywhere.
Cant even buy a $50 car radio at walmart without someone unlocking it for you.
But many of the gun stores I go into are EASY targets. I mean cmon, my garage is locked up tighter than half of them.
Its a REAL problem. 15 year olds ramming stolen kias though the front doors and emptying out the places. It might not be right, but its HAPPENING.
LOCK YOUR SHIT UP. Put bollards out front, maybe even some eco blocks on the sidewalk. Bars everywhere.
I mean fuck, the same shop will recommend you buy a vest with plates in it to protect your organs from gunfire, but WONT armor their store???? WTF?
If I owned a gun shop, I wouldnt need this stupid law to tell me to be a paranoid fucker and get my shit tightened up.
Geez It is a slap in the face. Why? Because of the slap on the wrist they are giving criminals. If criminals got real sentences then they would think twice before committing some of these crimes. That would lessen the need for these measures. But it's not just gun stores with these issues. Here in Renton I am seeing multiple businesses with the front bashed in and replaced with plywood. Nail salon, liquor store, subway, etc... This is just another arrow in their quiver come reelection time. "See, see I'm hard on guns. I enacted a useless law that won't save any lives. I'm so hard on guns!"
_________________ Reloading is easy, it's growing back fingers that's tough.
Studying for my Liberal Arts degree at Evergreen College.
YouTube taught me, just like everybody else.
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Normanator
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Location: Shelton, WA Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 Posts: 1144
Real Name: Norm
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Old Growth wrote: What if they passed a law requiring you to pack a firearm at all times to protect yourself from harm?
I dont disagree with you on many point juk, but thats not the reality of whats happening in society.
Im not to keen on the audio part of it all, but I have home video that will store more than 90 days of footage. BUt hey,we are typing this on a computer that is saving it forever all while having a phone nearby that is listening to anything you say anyways. Voluntarily Key word here is VOLUNTARILY We can ditch all the electronic shit any time we damn well please, but if a private business is MANDATED BY LAW to do something to spy on their customers... we don't live in London or Moscow!
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:53 am |
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DoveRelease
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Location: Arlington wa Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2018 Posts: 1188
Real Name: Patrick
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It's time to literally drain the democrap swamp.
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:04 am |
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JohnMBrowning
Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 4891
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DoveRelease wrote: It's time to literally drain the democrap UNIPARTY/Globalist swamp. Fixed it for you. There are plenty of republicans that should be fighting harder, but do just enough to make it 'look like they are trying' to garner the right's vote.
_________________ Plan B is actually repeating Plan A.... it just involves much more alcohol.
Of the ten voices I hear in my head, only three keep telling me NOT to shoot.... Do I go with the majority or common sense?
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:22 am |
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danoh
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Location: Sumner, WA Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 Posts: 3027
Real Name: Dan
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jukk0u wrote: "Unintended Consequences"... the night of the rope, is a poignant passage. I loved that story. Watched "V" a couple of nights ago. Was surprised it was allowed to be broadcasted.
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From a blog: Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
Benjamin Franklin: It is the (civic) responsibility of every citizen to question authority.
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:30 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8393
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scollins wrote: Old Growth wrote: Am I alone in thinking this is just plain common sense? Geez Yes, I think you are alone…. Tell us how you would implement the required surveillance and how much it would cost for one camera for two years if you had a gun shop. BLACK HAMMER ARMS 07/02 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:42 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4846
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It’s not two years. It’s 90 days.
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7827
Real Name: Jim Sr.
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DoveRelease wrote: It's time to literally drain the democrap swamp. Nuke em from space it’s the only way to be sure.
_________________"You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough.
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:00 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8393
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Old Growth wrote: It’s not two years. It’s 90 days. "Recordings shall be maintained for a minimum of two years for all recordings of areas where firearms are displayed and points of sale, and for a minimum of 45 days for all recordings of interior views of exterior doors, windows, and any other entries or exits:" BLACK HAMMER ARMS 07/02 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms
_________________BLACK HAMMER ARMSBuy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarmsType 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/
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Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:02 am |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5894
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danoh wrote: jukk0u wrote: "Unintended Consequences"... the night of the rope, is a poignant passage. I loved that story. Watched "V" a couple of nights ago. Was surprised it was allowed to be broadcasted. https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads ... uences.pdf
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