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Baltimore bridge goes down
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jukk0u
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Old Growth wrote: What would china gain by going to war with us? pretty complex subject. Among the plusses (for them): Oil trading in Rinminbi. Unfettered access to world resources and markets. A safe mainland with the capture of Taiwan. Farmland and several million guest workers to run the plantation. https://www.emerald.tv/p/the-secret-spe ... um=reader2
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cmica wrote: FJB AND BUTTPLUG!! 1. Who repealed Department of Transportation rule requiring high-hazard cargo trains to be equipped with electronically controlled pneumatic brakes by 2023, allowing them to brake faster? 1926 RLA that essentially stopped labor disputes (even over grave safety concerns) was passed by what Congress? 2. Airlines/Aircraft manufacturers. Also under the auspices of the RLA. Ability to self regulate/inspect was/is granted by? 3. Flags of Convenience definition? I’ll help. “To reduce costs or avoid regulations”. Democrats can create problems all on their own , you don’t need to blame traditional Republican agendas on them too.
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TechnoWeenie
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Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:20 pm |
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vic_b
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RocketScott wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: History of hiring shitty captains? The captain wasn't driving the ship. They had at least one pilot on board to get it out of the harbor. One report said two pilots Regardless of how many pilots were onboard, the captain is responsible for the ship and handling of it. Any time the capt feels his ship is in danger he has the authority to resume command/control. I’ve seen a captain kick a pilot off his ship before. As for as losing power, there is a lot that can cause that. Everything from water in the fuel to loss of an exciter on a generator. Most of these ships have a main propulsion engine with separate generators. The steering is hydraulic controlled, but there are usually backups. What happened on that ship? I don’t know, there are to many things that can go wrong in an engineering department. God have mercy on all their souls.
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Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:21 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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vic_b wrote: RocketScott wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: History of hiring shitty captains? The captain wasn't driving the ship. They had at least one pilot on board to get it out of the harbor. One report said two pilots Regardless of how many pilots were onboard, the captain is responsible for the ship and handling of it. Any time the capt feels his ship is in danger he has the authority to resume command/control. I’ve seen a captain kick a pilot off his ship before. As for as losing power, there is a lot that can cause that. Everything from water in the fuel to loss of an exciter on a generator. Most of these ships have a main propulsion engine with separate generators. The steering is hydraulic controlled, but there are usually backups. What happened on that ship? I don’t know, there are to many things that can go wrong in an engineering department. God have mercy on all their souls. Yup. Doesn't matter how much 'you did everything right', someone, somewhere, will be along to come up with some whack ass shit that you could have done. Remember when pencil pushers tried to say Sully could have made it back to an airport, but neglected to factor in time to run checklists and 'WTF is going on?' time? Dude saved a bunch of lives by making the RIGHT decision, and there were still people questioning everything he did. Based on the little that I do know, seemed they did everything they could. Only thing that could have prevented this is if they had tug escorts, which companies won't pay for unless they $$have to$$... They dropped anchor to try and change the course of the boat, they radioed that they had an emergency and they were going to hit the bridge, enough time for police (who were already on a traffic detail due to work on the bridge) to completely shut down traffic to the bridge. All things considered, ONLY losing 6 people (I think that's the number we were at, at last count) is a fucking miracle. That radio call and shutting down the bridge probably saved 100+ people. What I really wanna know.. is how the FUCK one survivor only had minor bruises/cuts/scratches and refused medical.... Dude needs to buy a lottery ticket. You don't have a bridge you're on collapse 200' into 45* water and get plucked to safety with essentially no injuries.
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AR15L
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TechnoWeenie wrote: What I really wanna know.. is how the FUCK one survivor only had minor bruises/cuts/scratches and refused medical.... Dude needs to buy a lottery ticket. You don't have a bridge you're on collapse 200' into 45* water and get plucked to safety with essentially no injuries.
Crisis actor. (to early?? )
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Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:39 pm |
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jukk0u wrote: Old Growth wrote: What would china gain by going to war with us? pretty complex subject. Among the plusses (for them): Oil trading in Rinminbi. Unfettered access to world resources and markets. A safe mainland with the capture of Taiwan. Farmland and several million guest workers to run the plantation. https://www.emerald.tv/p/the-secret-spe ... um=reader2Let me put it in one word: Lebensraum.Yup, I said it. Han Chinese Maoism is functionally almost indistinguishable from Germanic Aryan Nazism except that it traded Hitler's buzzwords for Stalin's and Nordic ethnosupremacism for Han. Start getting ready to #PartyLikeIt's1939, folks...
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L_O_G
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Lots of things swirling in the rumor mill around the port about what actuality happened, so we will have to wait for the "officially official" media release from the fearless leaders.
But what I do know is that the east coast ports are a part of the ILA union, and they are up for a new deal at the end of this year. Already talk of them striking, so shipping lines have already started slowly diverting some cargo in anticipation of this.
Makes that just a tad bit easier now. This wasn't just a "bridge" this was a very important part of that areas infustructure.
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Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:45 pm |
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Yep.....
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jukk0u
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" Huge Problem": Pentagon's Rapid Wartime Response Cargo Ships Trapped In Baltimore After Bridge CollapseThis is interesting. https://www.zerohedge.com/military/huge ... ter-bridge
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They need to send a fleet of tugs to yank that tangled mess of steel out of the way. Who care how long it takes to rebuild the bridge? Get that harbor functioning now.
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TechnoWeenie
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Sinus211 wrote: They need to send a fleet of tugs to yank that tangled mess of steel out of the way. Who care how long it takes to rebuild the bridge? Get that harbor functioning now. HAZMAT not allowed in tunnels. It was one of the most used HAZMAT thoroughfares in the area. It needs to be rebuilt.
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jukk0u
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Now they suspect that the ship and or wreckage might be resting on a high pressure under-water gas pipeline. https://gcaptain.com/dali-salvage-balti ... -pipeline/
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_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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