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dreadi wrote:
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best way to bypass the handgun law is to transfer the frame as an other.

the WA PTA is only to be used for a complete firearms

what you do in the parking lot is up to you.


Oh really?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-customer-have-be-certain-age-buy-firearms-or-ammunition-licensee

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All firearms other than shotguns and rifles, and all ammunition other than ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 21 years of age or older.


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yes you still have to be 21 but you don't have to fill out a pta form and send it to the state. DUH!!

I was commenting on the registry post, try and keep up.


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Ops wrote:
best way to bypass the handgun law is to transfer the frame as an other.

the WA PTA is only to be used for a complete firearms


This cant be right....


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All firearms other than shotguns and rifles, and all ammunition other than ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 21 years of age or older.
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I'm thinking the Bold letters second quote means serialized frames are included in this because the frame can be built as a pistol....... but I'm no FFL.

Its the feds covering their ass or heading the purchaser off at the pass.

We didnt do a PTA at Dreadi's

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no the Washington pistol transfer form is to only be used for complete firearms (pistol/revolvers) which go to into the dol registry.

a frame is not to be put on the form.

if you transferred a long gun you never have to do a pta form

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Jim, don't intermingle federal and state laws. But if you want to add them together, here's what you get for WA, assuming the buyer and seller are both WA residents:

Receivers: Must be 21 to buy from an FFL, do not need background check for private party sale, do not go to the WA "registry"
Handguns: Must be 21 to buy from an FFL, need background check for private party sale unless you meet an exception, go to the WA "registry"
Rifles and shotguns: Handguns: Must be 18 to buy from an FFL, need background check for private party sale unless you meet an exception, do not go to the WA "registry"

A father gifting a handgun, rifle or shotgun to his son would meet one of the exceptions in the law, so no FFL transfer would be required for any of the above types.

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Ops, you work at a gun shop. Correct? Why do you come online and tell people how to "bypass" a law? There is no "bypass" in Jim's situation or anyone else's. The topic is about legality of transferring a stripped lower to his son, who is under 21. You cannot "bypass" any state or federal laws for transferring a firearm that is neither a rifle or shotgun to a unlicensed person that is under 21.

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cant break a law if no law is broken.

and as yet again I was talking about the registry, please keep up.

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dreadi wrote:
Ops, you work at a gun shop. Correct?


Not anymore....


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Ops, you work at a gun shop. Correct?


Not anymore....


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NO REGISTRATION IN WA! NO PTA FOR FRAME, BUT MUST BE 21! SINCE IT CAN BE MADE INTO A PISTOL!
Lacey Cabelas has plenty of mags AR/AK. Also you can order them online.

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NO REGISTRATION IN WA! NO PTA FOR FRAME, BUT MUST BE 21! SINCE IT CAN BE MADE INTO A PISTOL!
Lacey Cabelas has plenty of mags AR/AK. Also you can order them online.



After looking for 15 minutes I asked the chunky dude behind the gun counter....he said no 762x39 ar15 mags.

Trust me ...my kid was on a mission and That wasn't the only salesman.

He pestered lots of salesmen.

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WaJim wrote:
golddigger14s wrote:
NO REGISTRATION IN WA! NO PTA FOR FRAME, BUT MUST BE 21! SINCE IT CAN BE MADE INTO A PISTOL!
Lacey Cabelas has plenty of mags AR/AK. Also you can order them online.



After looking for 15 minutes I asked the chunky dude behind the gun counter....he said no 762x39 ar15 mags.

Trust me ...my kid was on a mission and That wasn't the only salesman.

He pestered lots of salesmen.

Partially true, we don't have AK mags for the AR-AK's. Just regular AK, and SKS mags.

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What transfer? Its a gift between family members. Give it to him. End of story.


Is what I told him but.......

I guess its a Guy thing...hes 18 and wants the rifle registered to him.

I had to buy the lower and build it before he can own it.

Rite of Passage into Manhood????

*Shrug*

There's no long gun registry in WA, and supposedly the feds don't keep one, so I guess he's out of luck. :wink05:


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just got a message from a client. Her husband has passed away. Nice guy. Always upbeat.

Shit has just strobed me out. Life is short. Appreciate what you have and who you love.

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golddigger14s wrote:
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NO REGISTRATION IN WA! NO PTA FOR FRAME, BUT MUST BE 21! SINCE IT CAN BE MADE INTO A PISTOL!
Lacey Cabelas has plenty of mags AR/AK. Also you can order them online.



After looking for 15 minutes I asked the chunky dude behind the gun counter....he said no 762x39 ar15 mags.

Trust me ...my kid was on a mission and That wasn't the only salesman.

He pestered lots of salesmen.

Partially true, we don't have AK mags for the AR-AK's. Just regular AK, and SKS mags.

What AK mags? And don`t say Tapco, Promag, Gen1 or 2 Magpul nor the Croatian stuff...

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$188.63 registration for a fucking motorcycle in this damned state. Didn't quite realize how bad it'd be a year ago when I bought it.
$120 of that is for that fucking RTA bullshit. I ride to lower congestion an save fuel, to only get reamed...


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