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The democrats have basically confirmed this because now they are going after the guy who revealed it to the public.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/elija ... le/2618203

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”

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[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"


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The democrats have basically confirmed this because now they are going after the guy who revealed it to the public.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/elija ... le/2618203


The democrats are playing the exact same game the republicans are. This is not a confirmation of anything except partisan bullshit.
Be fair, and acknowledge the errors on BOTH sides of the aisle. Was it, indeed, an error for Nunes to trot over to POTUS and reveal information that he had obtained? I suspect it was.


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Alpine wrote:
The democrats have basically confirmed this because now they are going after the guy who revealed it to the public.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/elija ... le/2618203


The democrats are playing the exact same game the republicans are. This is not a confirmation of anything except partisan bullshit.
Be fair, and acknowledge the errors on BOTH sides of the aisle. Was it, indeed, an error for Nunes to trot over to POTUS and reveal information that he had obtained? I suspect it was.

As someone here has for their signature: (paraphrased because I can't remember the exact words.) To argue who screwed the pooch first, is a fallacy. (Illogical) Screwing the pooch is wrong.

This has become an argument of not only who screwed the pooch first, but who screwed the pooch the most. With whom. Etc...

I DON'T CARE!!!

QUIT SCREWING THE POOCH!

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Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:39 am
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http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/ ... of-a-mess/

"It means Team Trump was in contact with legitimate FI targets who were being monitored totally legally via SIGINT"

So, Trump being "right" about being Trump campaign being "wiretapped' (incidental or deliberate) is NOT a good thing for our country, because it means they were swept up by being in contact with foreign entities already under surveillance.


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ANZAC wrote:
http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/03/22/4-reasons-devin-nuness-stunt-created-more-of-a-mess/

"It means Team Trump was in contact with legitimate FI targets who were being monitored totally legally via SIGINT"

So, Trump being "right" about being Trump campaign being "wiretapped' (incidental or deliberate) is NOT a good thing for our country, because it means they were swept up by being in contact with foreign entities already under surveillance.

Wrong. Because after 8+ months of investigation there are no charges pending against Trump. They've been investigating this for almost a year and no proof of any wrongdoing. So Trump's campaign was in contact with FISA targets, so what? Was there criminal conduct or not? End of story.

8+ months. If you want to reduce this to guilt by association, then we need to go back and start compiling those cases against Clinton, Bush, Obama, Hillary, etc.

The big story here is that FISA is supposed to require redaction and content deletion when its discovered an American is on one end of the call, but that didn't happen here and instead Flynn's call(s) and likely other people as well got illegally leaked by intel agencies, which is a felony.

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If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto).
If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”

https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738
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[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"


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Didnt it also come out not too terribly long ago that we spy on our feckin' allies too? ....so much for "being in contact with foreign entities already under surveillance" being in any way incriminating in and of itself.

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Alpine wrote:
ANZAC wrote:
http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/03/22/4-reasons-devin-nuness-stunt-created-more-of-a-mess/

"It means Team Trump was in contact with legitimate FI targets who were being monitored totally legally via SIGINT"

So, Trump being "right" about being Trump campaign being "wiretapped' (incidental or deliberate) is NOT a good thing for our country, because it means they were swept up by being in contact with foreign entities already under surveillance.

Wrong. Because after 8+ months of investigation there are no charges pending against Trump. They've been investigating this for almost a year and no proof of any wrongdoing. So Trump's campaign was in contact with FISA targets, so what? Was there criminal conduct or not? End of story.

8+ months. If you want to reduce this to guilt by association, then we need to go back and start compiling those cases against Clinton, Bush, Obama, Hillary, etc.

The big story here is that FISA is supposed to require redaction and content deletion when its discovered an American is on one end of the call, but that didn't happen here and instead Flynn's call(s) and likely other people as well got illegally leaked by intel agencies, which is a felony.


If they were illegally leaked, those people need to be investigated and prosecuted.

But it won't make the Trump story go away. Their investigation continues. It is probably a very complex web to unravel.
We don't know what evidence they do have. Sometimes investigations take years.

But I agree with McCain - congress needs to be taken out of the loop on this, too many of them were involved in Trump's campaign or transition.
A select committee makes the most sense.


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How many years?

Wait, let me guess, 3.5 years, right?
:ROFLMAO:

Face it, there's nothing on Trump or they would have brought it out by now.

Spending the next 4 years saying how he's being eternally investigated is a farce and a poorly-disguised political ploy.

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If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto).
If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
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“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”

https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738
Quote:
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"


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Could this be a gamechanger?

Yesterday, Freedom Watch, a conservative legal organization dedicated to fighting government corruption including filing Freedom Of Information Act lawsuits, backed whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who has 47 hard drives and 600 million documents, and claim that some of them show Obama officials actively surveiling Trump associates and possibly Trump himself by abusing FISA warrants.

Freedom Watch sent a letter to the Chairman of the House Intel Committee, Devin Nunes, and is apparently delivering all of this info to his committee.

Instead of running off to Russia like Edward Snowden did, Montgomery sought out the Freedom Watch organization as a legal entity to protect him from being smeared by the Deep State. Instead, this allows the information to get out before the Fake News organizations try to scramble it.

From Gateway Pundit:
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A massive amount of data on 47 hard drives from a government whistle blower was turned over to the Freedom Watch group recently. The information proves Obama and company spied on everyone.

Via The Conservative Treehouse:

Freedom Watch notifies congress of a “Deep State” intelligence community whistle blower, Dennis Montgomery, with hundreds of millions of documents showing CIA and FBI and Intelligence Committees were spying on, and conducting surveillance on, American citizens for political purposes.

Mr. Montgomery is trying to use a legal “whistle-blower” process and not follow the same approach as Edward Snowden.


Stay tuned, this could get crazy real quick.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03 ... led-video/


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PMB wrote:
Alpine wrote:
The democrats have basically confirmed this because now they are going after the guy who revealed it to the public.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/elija ... le/2618203


The democrats are playing the exact same game the republicans are. This is not a confirmation of anything except partisan bullshit.
Be fair, and acknowledge the errors on BOTH sides of the aisle. Was it, indeed, an error for Nunes to trot over to POTUS and reveal information that he had obtained? I suspect it was.

As someone here has for their signature: (paraphrased because I can't remember the exact words.) To argue who screwed the pooch first, is a fallacy. (Illogical) Screwing the pooch is wrong.

This has become an argument of not only who screwed the pooch first, but who screwed the pooch the most. With whom. Etc...

I DON'T CARE!!!

QUIT SCREWING THE POOCH!


Damn straight! :bigsmile:


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Remember how Comey claimed NO FISA warrants for Trump's campaign were sought or issued?

Oops!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... cd20be2afb

How long until we find out they really tapped Trump Tower and admit it?

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If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto).
If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/
Quote:
“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.”

https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738
Quote:
[Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"


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