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Words on Ejection Port Cover Used in Murder Charge for Cop
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kf7mjf
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http://tribunist.com/news/questions-sur ... _source=SRAnd this boys and girls is why I am of the opinion that those stupid Punisher logos, skulls, or other shit in that vein has no place on a gun unless it is only a range toy.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:52 pm |
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jdhbulseye
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Yup. It sure as shit doesn't help a defendant defend against a prosecutors attempt to establish mens rea for the jury. ETA: Thats a nice Aimpoint Comp M4 though
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:00 pm |
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SixPointEight
Location: Frederickson, WA Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 Posts: 194
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I mean, it's not doing him any favors, but it's also not some key piece of evidence. Prosecution will try to use it to attack his character. Defense will counter. District cover won't be the deciding factor.
But still, nothing on your gun will help you in a shooting case. Everything will be used against you
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:02 pm |
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L_O_G
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Oh Christ, talk about making a big deal over nothing. He should have just used a department issue rifle then it would be a non-issue. Anything like that put on a dept issue rifle should be subject to discipline.
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AR15L
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This reminds me of the time the Glaser Safety Slugs came out. (look it up)
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:09 pm |
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Pablo
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Tasteless.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:46 pm |
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snozzberries
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AR15L wrote: This reminds me of the time the Glaser Safety Slugs came out. (look it up) Can you be more specific?
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:17 pm |
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golddigger14s
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I'm screwed. I have a WAGUNS dust cover, and a US Army one. If I'm lucky I'll have mashman for my boss.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:25 pm |
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UpDog
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So is this actually in court documents or just another exagerrating news article that you are using as evidence of your opinion?
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:41 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Do you have any particular points to critique or do you simply not like the content of the article and my opinion on certain forms of decoration? Read the article. The attorney for the dead guy's wife has made a public statement about that engraving. It is spelled out in the article. Here is essentially the same thing from a cop biased website. Is that helpful? http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/engr ... sed-court/Here, similar commentary from a gun training website http://www.activeresponsetraining.net/d ... rig-part-4"After court, Mesa police said it's launching an internal investigation into the gun's inscription." http://www.azfamily.com/story/31480834/ ... ype=mobileSo if you want to play the "exaggerating" card you'll need to actually critique the article, content and provide counterpoint. And here are three other articles, including one that is essentially cop propaganda, another from a gun training company, and another that is mainstream local news in Arizona all offering essentially the same commentary based off PUBLIC STATEMENTS by the lawyer of the dead person's family. So yes, the marking is being used as part of the case.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:55 pm |
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OhShoot!
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The inscription was spot on. I don't see the issue. The perp was definitely fucked.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:43 pm |
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deadshot2
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L_O_G wrote: Oh Christ, talk about making a big deal over nothing. He should have just used a department issue rifle then it would be a non-issue. Anything like that put on a dept issue rifle should be subject to discipline. I think this is why most departments require the carrying of department issued weapons or have a strong policy regarding which weapons and "accessories" are authorized. Same for ammo. I'm sure that someone has or would make an issue out of non issue ammo being used in a shootout with a criminal, regardless of the circumstances that lead to the officer firing At the least it's a distraction. At it's worst it will shift the focus to the officer's lack of taste and off the actions of the deceased prior to his demise. As for the Dust Covers on my AR's I believe all they say is "Made in USA" in small letters if they say anything at all.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:53 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Another thread about to be locked.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:57 pm |
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kf7mjf
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I'm gonna get a dust cover that says "I like sunshine and kittens" that way I can just say I was trying to share a message of peace and harmony.
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PTmorgan
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kf7mjf wrote: I'm gonna get a dust cover that says "I like sunshine and kittens" that way I can just say I was trying to share a message of peace and harmony.
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