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NJ raises the smoking age to 21 'to save lives'
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In Memoriam   Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595 
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If it's killing that many people, why not just give up the tax revenue and ban it altogether?
http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2 ... er_21.html _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
| Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:00 pm |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463 Real Name: Rick
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Guntrader wrote: If it's killing that many people, why not just give up the tax revenue and ban it altogether? http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2 ... er_21.html You know the answer.  _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:01 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817 Real Name: Matt
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I'm all for banning it. If cocaine and other drugs are illegal, would by not tobacco? It serves zero purpose. At least opiats get you high, and take you out of the shit situation you are in for a little while. Or at least stop treating tobacco related illnesses. So you have been smoking for 40 years and now you want insurance to pay for your lung cancer treatment? Get the fuck out of my office, you did this to yourself. Fuck tobacco.
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!" "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947 |
| Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:00 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8358
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Because tobacco is not a drug. Tobacco is used in pharmaceutical drugs. Tobacco is a natural anti-inflammatory and has other medicinal purposes.
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| Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:07 pm |
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In Memoriam Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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Smokers are much less of a burden on the healthcare system than healthy people.
They are diagnosed late, not much for treatment, and don't live as long. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstal ... 38c8e64aa2 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/ ... eport.html _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
| Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:07 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817 Real Name: Matt
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Guntrader wrote: Smokers are much less of a burden on the healthcare system than healthy people. They are diagnosed late, not much for treatment, and don't live as long. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstal ... 38c8e64aa2 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/ ... eport.html That is a fact, except my dad blew through half a million in cancer treatment his last year and a half on this earth. But on the bright side the tax payers didn't have to pay him that E-7 retirement pay past the age of 64. Would have possibly cost way more had he lived to 89 like his dad who refuse any kind of cancer treatment. Both smoked their whole lives. _________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!" "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947 |
| Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:35 pm |
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In Memoriam Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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My dad died of cancer at 67, never smoked nor drank.
Lived a healthy life, good physical shape. Lot of factors involved. Just never know when it's your turn. _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
| Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:06 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2575 Real Name: Earl
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Guntrader wrote: If it's killing that many people, why not just give up the tax revenue and ban it altogether? http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2 ... er_21.html Good! |
| Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:19 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5446 Real Name: Sergey
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I think California and Hawaii have done the same. Won't be surprised if we are next.
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| Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:09 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738 Real Name: Mike
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mcyclonegt wrote: I'm all for banning it. If cocaine and other drugs are illegal, would by not tobacco? It serves zero purpose. At least opiats get you high, and take you out of the shit situation you are in for a little while. Or at least stop treating tobacco related illnesses. So you have been smoking for 40 years and now you want insurance to pay for your lung cancer treatment? Get the fuck out of my office, you did this to yourself. Fuck tobacco. Two words.....
If it comes from the ground and is grown naturally, it should not be illegal. This also goes for the smelly green herb in my opinion. _________________ "No Quarter, No Mercy" mash_man wrote: #gangbangerlivesmatter |
| Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:40 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Wed Feb 6, 2013 Posts: 5365 Real Name: Reid
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Soldier_Citizen wrote: mcyclonegt wrote: I'm all for banning it. If cocaine and other drugs are illegal, would by not tobacco? It serves zero purpose. At least opiats get you high, and take you out of the shit situation you are in for a little while. Or at least stop treating tobacco related illnesses. So you have been smoking for 40 years and now you want insurance to pay for your lung cancer treatment? Get the fuck out of my office, you did this to yourself. Fuck tobacco. Two words.....
If it comes from the ground and is grown naturally, it should not be illegal. This also goes for the smelly green herb in my opinion.    _________________ "If it doesn't work, the proper sequence of tools is duct tape->screwdriver->hammer->shotgun. If none of that fixes it, it wasn't meant to work in the first place." I am free because I say I am. My freedom is not dependent on any government benefit or piece of legislation. My rights are inherent in the fact that I was born a sovereign being. They are non-negotiable. The government can list them and protect them, but my rights are not theirs to give away. Yolo: Because idiots don't know what "carpe diem" means. What, do you think I`m an amateur? You think this is Amateur hour? I`m covered in broken glass and hatred. You think someone would want to anger that with a Vz? - Fjordforder |
| Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:57 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999 Real Name: Josheewa
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Guntrader wrote: If it's killing that many people, why not just give up the tax revenue and ban it altogether? Totally agree _________________ It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35 Divided we fall. |
| Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:59 am |
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Site Supporter Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817 Real Name: Matt
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Soldier_Citizen wrote: mcyclonegt wrote: I'm all for banning it. If cocaine and other drugs are illegal, would by not tobacco? It serves zero purpose. At least opiats get you high, and take you out of the shit situation you are in for a little while. Or at least stop treating tobacco related illnesses. So you have been smoking for 40 years and now you want insurance to pay for your lung cancer treatment? Get the fuck out of my office, you did this to yourself. Fuck tobacco. Two words.....
If it comes from the ground and is grown naturally, it should not be illegal. This also goes for the smelly green herb in my opinion. I also admit I am extremely biased. In all honesty I would love to see a society where everything is legal and people that do things that are bad for you get zero help unless they can afford to pay for it. So you can smoke all you want, but unless you can pay out of pocket for cancer treatment you are SOL. Is that fair? _________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!" "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947 |
| Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:34 am |
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In Memoriam  Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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I'm all about the being responsible for one's own actions thingy.
I'd extend this sentiment to home building... Codes should be for public buildings, not one's own home. People grow accustomed to a .Gov who does things in the name of keeping them safe. It's Pie-In-The-Sky though because we are overpopulated. |
| Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:02 am |
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Site Supporter Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2575 Real Name: Earl
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PMB wrote: I'm all about the being responsible for one's own actions thingy. I'd extend this sentiment to home building... Codes should be for public buildings, not one's own home. People grow accustomed to a .Gov who does things in the name of keeping them safe. It's Pie-In-The-Sky though because we are overpopulated. Go see India for what happens without building codes. I totally disagree with this point |
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