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skey
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Location: Not Washington : ) Joined: Thu Aug 2, 2012 Posts: 2832
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The Navy will never prosecute. The JAG already determined that the evidence will not stand up in court.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:45 pm |
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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The Whidbey EA6B aviators back in the 90's were pretty impressive. Driving across the Deception Pass bridge it looked like they were 10 feet off my truck and trying to land there.
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28191
Real Name: Ace Winky
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Boys doing boy shit.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:25 pm |
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GeekWithGuns
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Location: Round Rock, TX Joined: Thu Mar 5, 2015 Posts: 3899
Real Name: Dave
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This is gonna be one helluva sticky situation for the Navy
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:32 pm |
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Jonathan Brown
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Location: SnoCo Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 2360
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It was a tribute to the President.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:39 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28191
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Jonathan Brown wrote: It was a tribute to the President. Clinton!
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:41 pm |
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Jonathan Brown
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Location: SnoCo Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 2360
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My bad. Trump has small hands.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:47 pm |
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8565
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Jonathan Brown wrote: My bad. Trump has small hands. How much rent is Trump paying to live in your head? Seems like you can hardly post anything here without mentioning him.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:07 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28191
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Guns4Liberty wrote: Jonathan Brown wrote: My bad. Trump has small hands. How much rent is Trump paying to live in your head? Seems like you can hardly post anything here without mentioning him. It's fuvked up his mind really good. I suggest a kick to the nuts to cure TDS.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:15 pm |
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Nitrosteve
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Location: Spanaway, WA Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 Posts: 97
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LC, I don't often agree with your comments or perspectives, but can appreciate a thorough debate! I will offer a little more insight to your earlier post:
Risk to himself- There is inherent risk to anything. But in this case, you seem to portray that there was a heightened risk in this event. No, these are standard maneuvers that can be flown in any general aviation aircraft. Look over the Lake Tapps area on any sunny day. There are numerous flight schools doing similar maneuvers (minus the contrails and fancy design!) training flight students. I hardly think that the operating envelope was close to being exceeded for the F-18 or any other high performance military jet. Admittedly, there is far greater risk in other mission profiles.
Risk to very expensive military hardware - himself and the aircraft. See above.
Risk to other aircraft perhaps- Perhaps not. The aircraft was in a designated area of special use airspace. Allows for high speed and maneuvering flight. See Military Operations Area- Okanogan MOA A.
Risk to anyone on the ground if the plane breaks up or crashes- Any machine can break and crash. I would offer that this profile over a rural area of WA in the mountains at 9,000-18,000 feet Mean Sea Level is far safer than the Blue Angels summer performance over Seattle and Lake Washington.
Yeah, I get it. I'm not being a stick in the mud- I would disagree! There will be an investigation as usual and the command will impose the level of punishment that they see fit. I have read a few of your previous message threads and quite clear that you have a strong disdain for military members screwing up.
It's like walking into a professional room and telling racist or sexist joke. Nobody really gets hurt but it's in extremely poor taste and unprofessional. You just can't do those things- It is clearly not right, but it happened. In non professional settings, off color jokes will continue to be told and I will continue to laugh at the good ones. Even the one liners on this thread are hilarious! Lastly, I commonly see far worse behavior in downtown Tacoma and Seattle that I would have a more difficult time explaining to young children than the skywriting event.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:32 pm |
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771
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Pablo wrote: Boys doing boy shit. This....BFD.
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:37 pm |
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Jonathan Brown
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Location: SnoCo Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 2360
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Guns4Liberty wrote: Jonathan Brown wrote: My bad. Trump has small hands. How much rent is Trump paying to live in your head? Seems like you can hardly post anything here without mentioning him. He is the news every day. There is some serious stuff going on that involve him and or his people. He's the president. So what you are saying is, you think he's not a relevant topic for any discussion, or even a little humor? Ok. No problem. The real question is for you? How much did you pay for the Kool-Aid?
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:41 pm |
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8565
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Jonathan Brown wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: Jonathan Brown wrote: My bad. Trump has small hands. How much rent is Trump paying to live in your head? Seems like you can hardly post anything here without mentioning him. He is the news every day. There is some serious stuff going on that involve him and or his people. He's the president. So what you are saying is, you think he's not a relevant topic for any discussion, or even a little humor? Ok. No problem. The real question is for you? How much did you pay for the Kool-Aid? Well, considering you voted for him and I didn't, I suppose it is you who ought to answer that question, isn't it? But this thread is not about Trump. There are many threads not about Trump. You keep injecting him into them when it is unnecessary. I'm just calling you out on it. Back to dick pics in the sky... That was well done, especially if he has never practiced that before!
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Jonathan Brown
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Location: SnoCo Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 2360
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Caricatures or sketches of dicks remind me of Trump. So shoot me. :)
So, you wasted your vote. Understood. Oh, sorry. Thats for another topic.
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No_Regerts
Location: Olympia Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2014 Posts: 354
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