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Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:59 am

I know there is a couple people here that have a gun room. I have a space Id like to turn into a gun room/vault. My house is on a full slab foundation. My thought was to take the existing sheetrock off all the walls and ceiling, sister in some steel studs(I have a almost limitless supply of them), then rivet on some steel plate(10ga?), then re sheetrock over it.
Any advice? Suggestions, hints, tips, etc? Is 10 ga thick enough? Can I run a standard electrical through the steel, or will the openings in the steel compromise the fire proofing too much? What have people done for a door?
Once its done, how is everyone standing guns up, hanging them on the walls?

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:17 pm

Here'es the door:

http://www.cabelas.com/browse.cmd?categ ... vault+door

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:21 pm

golddigger14s wrote:Here'es the door:

http://www.cabelas.com/browse.cmd?categ ... vault+door


Wow! Those seem nice. However part of the reason I thought about building, was to save some money over the cost of a large safe. Looks like that wont be the case.

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:35 pm

Your walls still need to breathe. Furring it out and then adding metal to it, then sheet rock will defeat that ability, creating condensation, humidity and air stagnation.

If it were me:
Pull the gyp bd and add a layer of welded wire mesh, this will keep people with saws and sledges at bay. For fun, you can throw in a few pieces of rebar. Then add 2 layers of 5/8" Type X Gyp Board. Do this to the ceiling as well. What this will do, is give you a 2 hour fire rating (weak point will be the roof collapsing the ceiling). Make sure you firetape the joints.

You need to condition the space as well. So you will need a heater and some way to perform an air change. Baseboard heat and put in a jumper vent above the door going into the gun room from the inside (not too big, 4"x12" or so).

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:45 pm

Would it be easier to designate your gun room and then buy a very large residential security container/gun safe? Would save a lot of time, money and effort.

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:48 pm

SFCRMSA wrote:Would it be easier to designate your gun room and then buy a very large residential security container/gun safe? Would save a lot of time, money and effort.


I have seen these helicoptered in for houses along Lake Tapps. Kind of requires a big hole or a home still under construction.

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:29 pm

Just put up some of your Cowboys and Tony Romo memorabilia on the walls outside, nobody will want to go in there.
:peep:

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:08 pm

L_O_G wrote:Just put up some of your Cowboys and Tony Romo memorabilia on the walls outside, nobody will want to go in there.
:peep:


:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :thumbsup2:

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:37 pm

My gun room is almost all concrete
I can offer little help

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:02 pm

Rix86 wrote:My gun room is almost all concrete
I can offer little help


What do you use for humidity control? Is it above or below grade?

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:34 pm

A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room?

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Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:37 pm

Think you need to tell us what your goals are for the room. IE theft protection, fire protection, smash and grab protection, ect. Without investing a ton I could see doing a fire resistant room with "smash and grab" protection then have a good safe and not have to invest a ton of money into it. Like Massive said, wire mesh with a good fire resistant board with give a good layer of protection

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:37 pm

sinus211 wrote:A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room?

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I should clarify, its more lf a vault than a room. I have 2 choices. 1 would be about an 8x4 rectangle, the other similar in size, but not a true rectangle.

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:45 pm

Jagerbomber35 wrote:
sinus211 wrote:A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room?

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I should clarify, its more lf a vault than a room. I have 2 choices. 1 would be about an 8x4 rectangle, the other similar in size, but not a true rectangle.


I'm just messing around man, I think it's an awesome idea. Just made me think of the gun rack quote from Wayne's World for some strange reason.

You could probably get a bunch of 8 or 10 gauge and just weld up a big box lined with sheetrock and felt. The door is gonna be tough to figure out though.

Re: Help with Gun Room/Vault

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:49 pm

sinus211 wrote:
Jagerbomber35 wrote:
sinus211 wrote:A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room?

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I should clarify, its more lf a vault than a room. I have 2 choices. 1 would be about an 8x4 rectangle, the other similar in size, but not a true rectangle.


I'm just messing around man, I think it's an awesome idea. Just made me think of the gun rack quote from Wayne's World for some strange reason.

You could probably get a bunch of 8 or 10 gauge and just weld up a big box lined with sheetrock and felt. The door is gonna be tough to figure out though.


Pretty much where my head was at. Only as stated figured I'd sister in steel studs, and rivet the sheet on. Then can fireproof silicone the seams. Not too worried about the ceiling, other than fire protection. However Dan is raining on my parade by talking in Latin about air flow crap! :bruce:
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