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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
Real Name: Kyle
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I know there is a couple people here that have a gun room. I have a space Id like to turn into a gun room/vault. My house is on a full slab foundation. My thought was to take the existing sheetrock off all the walls and ceiling, sister in some steel studs(I have a almost limitless supply of them), then rivet on some steel plate(10ga?), then re sheetrock over it. Any advice? Suggestions, hints, tips, etc? Is 10 ga thick enough? Can I run a standard electrical through the steel, or will the openings in the steel compromise the fire proofing too much? What have people done for a door? Once its done, how is everyone standing guns up, hanging them on the walls?
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:59 am |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:17 pm |
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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
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Wow! Those seem nice. However part of the reason I thought about building, was to save some money over the cost of a large safe. Looks like that wont be the case.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:21 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307
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Your walls still need to breathe. Furring it out and then adding metal to it, then sheet rock will defeat that ability, creating condensation, humidity and air stagnation.
If it were me: Pull the gyp bd and add a layer of welded wire mesh, this will keep people with saws and sledges at bay. For fun, you can throw in a few pieces of rebar. Then add 2 layers of 5/8" Type X Gyp Board. Do this to the ceiling as well. What this will do, is give you a 2 hour fire rating (weak point will be the roof collapsing the ceiling). Make sure you firetape the joints.
You need to condition the space as well. So you will need a heater and some way to perform an air change. Baseboard heat and put in a jumper vent above the door going into the gun room from the inside (not too big, 4"x12" or so).
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:35 pm |
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SFCRMSA
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Location: Lacey/Olympia/JBLM Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 Posts: 3111
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Would it be easier to designate your gun room and then buy a very large residential security container/gun safe? Would save a lot of time, money and effort.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:45 pm |
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hkcavalier
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Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5484
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SFCRMSA wrote: Would it be easier to designate your gun room and then buy a very large residential security container/gun safe? Would save a lot of time, money and effort. I have seen these helicoptered in for houses along Lake Tapps. Kind of requires a big hole or a home still under construction.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:48 pm |
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13486
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Just put up some of your Cowboys and Tony Romo memorabilia on the walls outside, nobody will want to go in there.
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:08 pm |
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Rix86
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Location: Shelton Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 Posts: 5838
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My gun room is almost all concrete I can offer little help
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:37 pm |
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581
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Rix86 wrote: My gun room is almost all concrete I can offer little help What do you use for humidity control? Is it above or below grade?
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:02 pm |
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503
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A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room?
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:34 pm |
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velillen
Location: Wyoming Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 Posts: 981
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Think you need to tell us what your goals are for the room. IE theft protection, fire protection, smash and grab protection, ect. Without investing a ton I could see doing a fire resistant room with "smash and grab" protection then have a good safe and not have to invest a ton of money into it. Like Massive said, wire mesh with a good fire resistant board with give a good layer of protection
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:37 pm |
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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
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sinus211 wrote: A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room? I should clarify, its more lf a vault than a room. I have 2 choices. 1 would be about an 8x4 rectangle, the other similar in size, but not a true rectangle.
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: sinus211 wrote: A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room? I should clarify, its more lf a vault than a room. I have 2 choices. 1 would be about an 8x4 rectangle, the other similar in size, but not a true rectangle. I'm just messing around man, I think it's an awesome idea. Just made me think of the gun rack quote from Wayne's World for some strange reason. You could probably get a bunch of 8 or 10 gauge and just weld up a big box lined with sheetrock and felt. The door is gonna be tough to figure out though.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:45 pm |
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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
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sinus211 wrote: Jagerbomber35 wrote: sinus211 wrote: A gun room? A gun room? Shyeah! Are you mental? You hardly even own a gun, let alone enough to necessitate an entire room. What are you gonna do with a gun room? I should clarify, its more lf a vault than a room. I have 2 choices. 1 would be about an 8x4 rectangle, the other similar in size, but not a true rectangle. I'm just messing around man, I think it's an awesome idea. Just made me think of the gun rack quote from Wayne's World for some strange reason. You could probably get a bunch of 8 or 10 gauge and just weld up a big box lined with sheetrock and felt. The door is gonna be tough to figure out though. Pretty much where my head was at. Only as stated figured I'd sister in steel studs, and rivet the sheet on. Then can fireproof silicone the seams. Not too worried about the ceiling, other than fire protection. However Dan is raining on my parade by talking in Latin about air flow crap!
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