|
|
|
It is currently Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:36 pm
|
Author |
Message |
reterderr
Location: Seattle Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 Posts: 17
Real Name: Pizzle
|
I was ready another gun forum and there was a thread talking about the possibility of an MSR ban in WA and OR. Most responders presumed that we would be given a grandfather clause for existing weapons. Maybe you guys already do this... But should I buy a couple or more stripper lowers just in case this all happens? I don't really want to spend the money on a complete gun, but if I had some grandfathered lowers I could buy uppers or whatever at my leisure.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:03 pm |
|
|
blue92
Location: NE Thurston County Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2018 Posts: 105
|
At current prices you won't lose much if any so buy some.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:10 pm |
|
|
Pablo
Site Supporter
Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178
Real Name: Ace Winky
|
reterderr wrote: I was ready another gun forum and there was a thread talking about the possibility of an MSR ban in WA and OR. Most responders presumed that we would be given a grandfather clause for existing weapons. Maybe you guys already do this... But should I buy a couple or more stripper lowers just in case this all happens? I don't really want to spend the money on a complete gun, but if I had some grandfathered lowers I could buy uppers or whatever at my leisure. Probably should start by reading through here: viewforum.php?f=137I think it would be best if we all keep current on the details and actually FIGHT the terrible legislation. Up until Wed, the worst was being held in check, now it looks like the best scenario is "just" an age increase on semi-auto rifle purchase. But man, I don't want to be an asshole here - but do you vote? Do you know who your legislators are? Are you prepared to contact them frequently? Buying a few lowers is probably smart, either way.
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck?
Because the eagle sounds like a hawk.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:10 pm |
|
|
Ops
Site Supporter
Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
|
stock up on lowers and parts kits.
_________________Yaki's - last journeyPromote a Growth Mindset. Don't let a fixed mindset not allow change for the better.
pow·er trip - noun - a self-aggrandizing quest for ever-increasing control over others.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:26 pm |
|
|
old11bravo
Site Supporter
Location: Everett Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 Posts: 3421
Real Name: Ron
|
https://2aindustries.wordpress.com/blue92 wrote: At current prices you won't lose much if any so buy some. Actually that would depend on what lowers you decide to purchase. Some are pretty expensive.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:30 pm |
|
|
TINCANBANDIT
Site Supporter
Location: Mohave Valley Arizona Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 Posts: 13371
Real Name: Casey
|
keep in mind WA would become one of those states in which the sellers can't or won't ship to......
"Cannot be shipped to Washington, D.C.; CA; DE; IL; MA; NJ; New York City, NY; Canada; or Puerto Rico"
_________________Actor portrayal, Action figures sold separately, You must be at least this tall to ride, Individual results may vary, Sales tax not included, All models are over 18 years of age, upon approval of credit, Quantities are limited while supplies last, Some restrictions apply, Not available with other offers, At participating locations only, Void where prohibited, Above terms subject to change without notice, Patent pending.See my blog: http://tincanbandit.blogspot.com/
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:02 pm |
|
|
jdhbulseye
Site Supporter
Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761
Real Name: Mr. Idgaf
|
What brands are good for lowers? I dont need a top dollar one but I wouldn't want a budget basement one either. I am one of those people that is okay with paying more for quality. But like I said, it doesn't have to be "da bestest lower ever omgz".
_________________MadPick wrote: Without penetration data, the pics aren't of much use. - Spoiler: show
- "Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot
"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker
A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell
"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...
For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder
Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.
Jeff Cooper 1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.
- Spoiler: show
- SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.
The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.
You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.
“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.” - Spoiler: show
cityslicker wrote: I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:06 pm |
|
|
RocketScott
Site Supporter
Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11088
|
_________________ You may be right, I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:19 pm |
|
|
mcyclonegt
Site Supporter
Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
Real Name: Matt
|
Aero’s or Anderson’s. Not a damn thing wrong with either.
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:32 pm |
|
|
blue92
Location: NE Thurston County Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2018 Posts: 105
|
old11bravo wrote: https://2aindustries.wordpress.com/ blue92 wrote: At current prices you won't lose much if any so buy some. Actually that would depend on what lowers you decide to purchase. Some are pretty expensive. Re-read. At current prices you won't lose much. A $350 billet lower now will be at least that much later, too.
|
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:06 pm |
|
|
leadcounsel
Site Supporter
Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
|
To anyone that's a gun owner or cares about civil liberties, you should be writing your legislature to turn this stuff off, and voting pro-gun in every election.
As for stocking up, yes. Anything you think you might want, you'd be wise to get it now. We are living in a cycle where 1 bad shooting or 1 bad election cycle can ban stuff overnight or put heavy restrictions on ownership.
I'm personally planning my exit strategy from Washington because I simply refuse to live under this nightmare. The cloud of anxiety this causes me and has caused me for my entire time here is just too much to continue with. I hate it. I've lived in free states before and there isn't always this urgency that you must "stock up."
I've been a gun owner for ~20 years. My first experiences were under the Clinton AWB. The variety and quality of handguns and rifles then is nowhere near what we have today. Prices then were much higher too. Sigs and Glocks and ARs are cheaper today than they were during the AWB. Mags too. Night and day. If you could even find quality high capacity mags prepare to pay through the nose. I barely owned any 11+ round mags b/c they were scarce and expensive.
We had a brief good period from 2004-2009 when Obama took over. I came home from my deployment to find stripped no-name lowers were $150, and I bought the last 3 in the shop so I would have them. Gun shows - a joke. Basic AR15s were 3-6x what they are now. I remember seeing one guy with an AR for sale for like a grand, and there were like 8 people arguing over who would get to buy it. Mags were $50 or $100 for common AR and AK mags. Ammo became extinct, practically. You either couldn't get it, or it was 2-5x expensive.
There was serious talk of a permanent AWB. It was terrible.
That was on a nationwide scale. I doubt we'll see that again nationwide, at least for the next few years and probably never. But it's going on in smaller scales state-wide. Washington is heading in that direction, and the legislature here probably has the power to do it. IMO it's just a matter of 1-3 years for serious bad gun laws to get pushed through. Probably going to see California style weapon and magazine restrictions which start mild and get bad after a few years. Companies will stop shipping here too. Could be some other anti-gun laws too.
UNLESS citizens act. VOTE. WRITE.
_________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice.
|
Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:25 am |
|
|
Kick start my heart
Location: Chehalis Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2017 Posts: 949
Real Name: Jason
|
leadcounsel wrote: To anyone that's a gun owner or cares about civil liberties, you should be writing your legislature to turn this stuff off, and voting pro-gun in every election.
As for stocking up, yes. Anything you think you might want, you'd be wise to get it now. We are living in a cycle where 1 bad shooting or 1 bad election cycle can ban stuff overnight or put heavy restrictions on ownership.
I'm personally planning my exit strategy from Washington because I simply refuse to live under this nightmare. The cloud of anxiety this causes me and has caused me for my entire time here is just too much to continue with. I hate it. I've lived in free states before and there isn't always this urgency that you must "stock up."
I've been a gun owner for ~20 years. My first experiences were under the Clinton AWB. The variety and quality of handguns and rifles then is nowhere near what we have today. Prices then were much higher too. Sigs and Glocks and ARs are cheaper today than they were during the AWB. Mags too. Night and day. If you could even find quality high capacity mags prepare to pay through the nose. I barely owned any 11+ round mags b/c they were scarce and expensive.
We had a brief good period from 2004-2009 when Obama took over. I came home from my deployment to find stripped no-name lowers were $150, and I bought the last 3 in the shop so I would have them. Gun shows - a joke. Basic AR15s were 3-6x what they are now. I remember seeing one guy with an AR for sale for like a grand, and there were like 8 people arguing over who would get to buy it. Mags were $50 or $100 for common AR and AK mags. Ammo became extinct, practically. You either couldn't get it, or it was 2-5x expensive.
There was serious talk of a permanent AWB. It was terrible.
That was on a nationwide scale. I doubt we'll see that again nationwide, at least for the next few years and probably never. But it's going on in smaller scales state-wide. Washington is heading in that direction, and the legislature here probably has the power to do it. IMO it's just a matter of 1-3 years for serious bad gun laws to get pushed through. Probably going to see California style weapon and magazine restrictions which start mild and get bad after a few years. Companies will stop shipping here too. Could be some other anti-gun laws too.
UNLESS citizens act. VOTE. WRITE. I get why you want to leave, but every time someone pro gun leaves for a “free state”, it’s one less citizen to act, vote, write, in that state. Eventually people are going to keep moving, states will become more anti gun, then there won’t be enough “free states” left to sway any national opinion. FYI: -California has 55 electoral votes. -New York 29. -Montana 3. -Idaho 4. See where I’m going with this?
|
Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:46 pm |
|
|
Caveman Jim
Site Supporter
Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7789
Real Name: Jim Sr.
|
Kick start my heart wrote: leadcounsel wrote: To anyone that's a gun owner or cares about civil liberties, you should be writing your legislature to turn this stuff off, and voting pro-gun in every election.
As for stocking up, yes. Anything you think you might want, you'd be wise to get it now. We are living in a cycle where 1 bad shooting or 1 bad election cycle can ban stuff overnight or put heavy restrictions on ownership.
I'm personally planning my exit strategy from Washington because I simply refuse to live under this nightmare. The cloud of anxiety this causes me and has caused me for my entire time here is just too much to continue with. I hate it. I've lived in free states before and there isn't always this urgency that you must "stock up."
I've been a gun owner for ~20 years. My first experiences were under the Clinton AWB. The variety and quality of handguns and rifles then is nowhere near what we have today. Prices then were much higher too. Sigs and Glocks and ARs are cheaper today than they were during the AWB. Mags too. Night and day. If you could even find quality high capacity mags prepare to pay through the nose. I barely owned any 11+ round mags b/c they were scarce and expensive.
We had a brief good period from 2004-2009 when Obama took over. I came home from my deployment to find stripped no-name lowers were $150, and I bought the last 3 in the shop so I would have them. Gun shows - a joke. Basic AR15s were 3-6x what they are now. I remember seeing one guy with an AR for sale for like a grand, and there were like 8 people arguing over who would get to buy it. Mags were $50 or $100 for common AR and AK mags. Ammo became extinct, practically. You either couldn't get it, or it was 2-5x expensive.
There was serious talk of a permanent AWB. It was terrible.
That was on a nationwide scale. I doubt we'll see that again nationwide, at least for the next few years and probably never. But it's going on in smaller scales state-wide. Washington is heading in that direction, and the legislature here probably has the power to do it. IMO it's just a matter of 1-3 years for serious bad gun laws to get pushed through. Probably going to see California style weapon and magazine restrictions which start mild and get bad after a few years. Companies will stop shipping here too. Could be some other anti-gun laws too.
UNLESS citizens act. VOTE. WRITE. I get why you want to leave, but every time someone pro gun leaves for a “free state”, it’s one less citizen to act, vote, write, in that state. Eventually people are going to keep moving, states will become more anti gun, then there won’t be enough “free states” left to sway any national opinion. FYI: -California has 55 electoral votes. -New York 29. -Montana 3. -Idaho 4. See where I’m going with this?[/ quote] You do not see the whole picture, people move to a beautiful state such as Wa (Oregun too) from a very oppressive state such as California. These Democrat progressive liberal voting cretins then throw the balance from tolerable but leave us alone citizens to an invasion of the rights snatching dogooders. We have been fighting this vermin for years but every year it gets worse and there is no light at the end of the tunnel save a revolt. You younger people should have been paying attention to what us older freedom fighters have been doing all these years and adapt new strategies for the times. Good luck because we are handing you guys the torch. I want to live the last few years I have left enjoying my freedom with my grand kids.
_________________"You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough.
|
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:38 am |
|
|
Mike_P
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Lacey Joined: Fri May 31, 2013 Posts: 395
Real Name: Mike
|
We've got a rather large order coming in of both AR15 and 308AR receivers. I'll have pricing soon. I think they'll be quite competitively priced.
_________________Olympic Cerakote (07/02) Lacey, WA E: Info@olympiccerakote.comP: (360) 972-2955 Certified Cerakote Applicator Custom Firearm builds Firearm Sales/Special Orders Ammo/parts Sales
|
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:47 am |
|
|
Duke EB
Site Supporter
Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2575
Real Name: Earl
|
Mike_P wrote: We've got a rather large order coming in of both AR15 and 308AR receivers. I'll have pricing soon. I think they'll be quite competitively priced. 80% receivers? Eagerly awaiting more info!
|
Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:22 am |
|
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 73 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|