Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:17 pm
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Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:49 pm
cmica wrote:bet you didn't know there's more than one.
yes there are upper pits where forest logging is taking place, maybe even fixing trails.
Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:50 pm
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Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:39 am
Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:45 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:45 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:12 pm
terry440 wrote:So i was just up at the greenwater lower pit and the gate is closed (which is to be expected for this time of year) and now the road past the pit has been completely blocked off with boulders and the firing line has been moved out a good 30 yards from the treeline. Not cool. Lots of good spots are now blocked off.
Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:45 pm
MadPick wrote:terry440 wrote:So i was just up at the greenwater lower pit and the gate is closed (which is to be expected for this time of year) and now the road past the pit has been completely blocked off with boulders and the firing line has been moved out a good 30 yards from the treeline. Not cool. Lots of good spots are now blocked off.
MADrtcw and I coordinated this with the Forest Service; it was our suggestion. Let me explain.
There have been a LOT of problems at Greenwater with irresponsible forest users, and some of those people are shooters. Bullets have landed in the nearby Greenwater community, bullets have gone into the forest and damaged trees, trash has been left by the truckload, etc. There has been some serious backlash from the local community, some of the lawmakers in Olympia, etc. This meant that we were in very real danger of losing our ability to shoot at many of the Greenwater locations.
The location you're referring to is on road FS7013 and is sometimes called "the clearcut." These are the problems that were seen at that particular location:
1) Trash, trash, trash.
2) The hillside is a GREAT backstop, but many people were shooting to the right, into the trees . . . which is illegal, and can be dangerous because there are sometimes people beyond those trees.
3) The firing line was really, really long . . . which made communication difficult, and often people would walk out to change targets without calling a cold range. Obviously this is very dangerous.
4) If you drive past the clearcut and up that road, there are a number of other, smaller places where people would shoot . . . and many of them were very unsafe. In most cases, this means that the shooting area is right at the top of a hill, without a backstop, and bullets would just fly over the top of the hill and out into the unknown. Remember I mentioned bullets falling in the Greenwater community? This is where I think they were coming from.
So, the changes you described accomplished a few things:
1) Cut off access to this higher, unsafe shooting areas.
2) Reduced the length of the firing line, so shooters will communicate better.
3) Angled the firing line to make it parallel to the big hillside, so people will shoot into the berm.
I think it will be good for us . . . I think it was a pro-shooter change, and pro-everybody else too.
The Forest Service has been very receptive to our input, and very helpful.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:39 pm
NWGunner wrote:MadPick wrote:terry440 wrote:So i was just up at the greenwater lower pit and the gate is closed (which is to be expected for this time of year) and now the road past the pit has been completely blocked off with boulders and the firing line has been moved out a good 30 yards from the treeline. Not cool. Lots of good spots are now blocked off.
MADrtcw and I coordinated this with the Forest Service; it was our suggestion. Let me explain.
There have been a LOT of problems at Greenwater with irresponsible forest users, and some of those people are shooters. Bullets have landed in the nearby Greenwater community, bullets have gone into the forest and damaged trees, trash has been left by the truckload, etc. There has been some serious backlash from the local community, some of the lawmakers in Olympia, etc. This meant that we were in very real danger of losing our ability to shoot at many of the Greenwater locations.
The location you're referring to is on road FS7013 and is sometimes called "the clearcut." These are the problems that were seen at that particular location:
1) Trash, trash, trash.
2) The hillside is a GREAT backstop, but many people were shooting to the right, into the trees . . . which is illegal, and can be dangerous because there are sometimes people beyond those trees.
3) The firing line was really, really long . . . which made communication difficult, and often people would walk out to change targets without calling a cold range. Obviously this is very dangerous.
4) If you drive past the clearcut and up that road, there are a number of other, smaller places where people would shoot . . . and many of them were very unsafe. In most cases, this means that the shooting area is right at the top of a hill, without a backstop, and bullets would just fly over the top of the hill and out into the unknown. Remember I mentioned bullets falling in the Greenwater community? This is where I think they were coming from.
So, the changes you described accomplished a few things:
1) Cut off access to this higher, unsafe shooting areas.
2) Reduced the length of the firing line, so shooters will communicate better.
3) Angled the firing line to make it parallel to the big hillside, so people will shoot into the berm.
I think it will be good for us . . . I think it was a pro-shooter change, and pro-everybody else too.
The Forest Service has been very receptive to our input, and very helpful.
What the hell is wrong with you, you trying to work with the Forest Service to keep the Pit open instead of being closed for good?
Damn responsible gun owners......
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:07 pm
terry440 wrote:So i was just up at the greenwater lower pit and the gate is closed (which is to be expected for this time of year) and now the road past the pit has been completely blocked off with boulders and the firing line has been moved out a good 30 yards from the treeline. Not cool. Lots of good spots are now blocked off.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:07 am
The county was originally named after William Rufus King who was Vice-President when the Washington Territory was created in 1853. In 1986, a motion was introduced to change the namesake to Martin Luther King Jr. No public votes or hearings were taken on the change.
Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:43 pm
Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:12 pm
SAM7R wrote:Went their today, a mile before the gravel pit they blocked access to it. Damn no place to shoot the 400 rounds I just bought.