Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:04 pm
bought rifle for less than $100 3 years ago.
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:17 pm
redstar wrote:bought rifle for less than $100 3 years ago.
You're on thin ice, mister!
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:39 pm
Ok here start the enfields.
1945 BSA Shirley No4 Mk1.
Late war modified rear sling swivel (easier to manufacture)
Matching numbers: bolt, wood, magazine and receiver.
On the Wrist: NOR13: [url]The NORE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander ... ,_The_Nore[/url][/b]. Seems like this was inter service command competition rifle.
I'll post the other I bought that day next time. Interesting rifle.
BSA Shirley T33354:
Fore stock: #T33354 on fore stock in 2 places. WL: Wilkinsons Ltd. on metal. C. Y.
Top Wood: SM: Singer Manufacturing.
Butt stock: N49: H. Morris and Co. Ltd. Glasgow. Crown . M37. E. 1254 right side. NOR13 1254.
Bolt: #T33354. 0 head. Crossed flags proof mark on head, 4A safety. M bolt handle. Crossed flags proof mark on handle.
Receiver: Faint electropencil No4 Mk1. T3354. 303 Brit U.K.
Receiver Wrist: M47C. 1944 over stamped 5. #T33354
Magazine #T33354. Spine . U.C.F. follower
Front Sight: ROFB: Royal Ordnance Factory Birmingham.
Rear Sight: B, Birmingham Metal and Munitions Co. Ltd.
Mid Band: N79. Viners Ltd. Sheffield. UK.
1945 BSA Shirley No4 Mk1.
Late war modified rear sling swivel (easier to manufacture)
Matching numbers: bolt, wood, magazine and receiver.
On the Wrist: NOR13: [url]The NORE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander ... ,_The_Nore[/url][/b]. Seems like this was inter service command competition rifle.
I'll post the other I bought that day next time. Interesting rifle.
BSA Shirley T33354:
Fore stock: #T33354 on fore stock in 2 places. WL: Wilkinsons Ltd. on metal. C. Y.
Top Wood: SM: Singer Manufacturing.
Butt stock: N49: H. Morris and Co. Ltd. Glasgow. Crown . M37. E. 1254 right side. NOR13 1254.
Bolt: #T33354. 0 head. Crossed flags proof mark on head, 4A safety. M bolt handle. Crossed flags proof mark on handle.
Receiver: Faint electropencil No4 Mk1. T3354. 303 Brit U.K.
Receiver Wrist: M47C. 1944 over stamped 5. #T33354
Magazine #T33354. Spine . U.C.F. follower
Front Sight: ROFB: Royal Ordnance Factory Birmingham.
Rear Sight: B, Birmingham Metal and Munitions Co. Ltd.
Mid Band: N79. Viners Ltd. Sheffield. UK.
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Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:58 pm
Nothing too exciting but a nice historical rifle that's a nice shooter.
Yugo m24/47 Preduzece 44. This was originally an FN 1924 8mm mauser that was reworked by the yugoslavs post WWII. All the original markings were scrubbed but on this one you can still see the original Fab of Frabrique.
Yugo m24/47 Preduzece 44. This was originally an FN 1924 8mm mauser that was reworked by the yugoslavs post WWII. All the original markings were scrubbed but on this one you can still see the original Fab of Frabrique.
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Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:58 pm
That's a nice-looking Mauser! 
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:39 pm
As the sole Loser posting to this thread these days..I will post my latest purchase tomorrow...the end of the enfield bloodline
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:48 pm
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:43 pm
What you trying to say?...loser=red headed step child=me
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:27 am
redstar wrote:What you trying to say?...loser=red headed step child=me
Well, here's an alternative interpretation: https://youtu.be/6PtdpI-D6mM?t=16
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:10 pm
Before i post the new one...(still getting Cosmoline out), here's No1 Mk3* that has had an interesting life. The Ishapore factory in India ran a "Salvage" program to recover/repair rifles returning from Jungle service in Burma etc. This program ran from 1941 to about 1975. These rifles are therefore a mix of parts, manfacturers, and countries of origin. They are distinctive by key easy to see features.
1. The original wrist markings on the bolt side (serial, model, manufacturer) are ground off. The new markings are on the opposite safety side. They are marked FR and remarked No1Mk3* (not No1MkIII*) and the FR date FR51. With some you can see faint markings, others like this one are smooth.
2. In 1951 India moved away from the "waisted" nosecap to a newer design that required less machining and had a better sight picture. It also protected the muzzle better. They also deleted the swivel.
3. A 3rd less obvious is that the charger bridge anchor is now square not round.
The guns got a full Factory Thru Repair, with new wood, reworked bolts, new barrels, magazines and can be found all matching. This is an all matching Ishapore Mk.1 No.3 53498X: FR 1951. This one has mainly British parts on it from the original. Serialized to rifle: Receiver, Barrel, Bolt, Magazine, Forestock, Rear Sight. Stock is Indian rosewood.
These are great shooters as they are often like new from the FTR program.
Stock and metal work are covered in stamps, proofmarks etc. These can tell you where some parts are from.
TDEW roundel: Indian military service.
1. The original wrist markings on the bolt side (serial, model, manufacturer) are ground off. The new markings are on the opposite safety side. They are marked FR and remarked No1Mk3* (not No1MkIII*) and the FR date FR51. With some you can see faint markings, others like this one are smooth.
2. In 1951 India moved away from the "waisted" nosecap to a newer design that required less machining and had a better sight picture. It also protected the muzzle better. They also deleted the swivel.
3. A 3rd less obvious is that the charger bridge anchor is now square not round.
The guns got a full Factory Thru Repair, with new wood, reworked bolts, new barrels, magazines and can be found all matching. This is an all matching Ishapore Mk.1 No.3 53498X: FR 1951. This one has mainly British parts on it from the original. Serialized to rifle: Receiver, Barrel, Bolt, Magazine, Forestock, Rear Sight. Stock is Indian rosewood.
These are great shooters as they are often like new from the FTR program.
Stock and metal work are covered in stamps, proofmarks etc. These can tell you where some parts are from.
TDEW roundel: Indian military service.
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Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:31 pm
^ I did not know any of that! Thank you for sharing those details.
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:34 pm
You're welcome...I like enfields for the history, breadth and complexity. I bought this one at an auction a few years ago for under $300..I saw one sell last year not quite as nice for $400 locally. Once I clean the Enfield 2A 7.62x51 I'll post it.
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:38 pm
All right, redstar shamed me into it. 
When I was first getting into guns (2008-ish), I was in a Big 5 and I saw an M95. I didn't know what it was, and that straight-pull bolt was just WEIRD. I didn't like it very much, put it back on the rack and left.
What a dumbass I was.
Well, I've gotten slightly smarter over time, so here are two Steyr M95/30 carbines:
Both of these are Austrian, and were originally M95 carbines, later converted to the M95/30 configuration.
In case ya don't know, these shoot the 8x56R cartridge, which is a pretty good-sized mofo. Lots of punch in a small rifle. But don't worry, that straight-pull bolt will hold. Most likely.
You've probably seen the ammo, often dated 1938 and Nazi-marked on clips. I bought a big box of it at one point, but I ultimately didn't have the heart to shoot it up, there was just too much history there. I ended up selling it to a guy in California, just before they implemented their for-the-children "all ammo must go through an FFL" law.
I kept a few clips, but I reload for them now.
When I was first getting into guns (2008-ish), I was in a Big 5 and I saw an M95. I didn't know what it was, and that straight-pull bolt was just WEIRD. I didn't like it very much, put it back on the rack and left.
What a dumbass I was.
Well, I've gotten slightly smarter over time, so here are two Steyr M95/30 carbines:
Both of these are Austrian, and were originally M95 carbines, later converted to the M95/30 configuration.
In case ya don't know, these shoot the 8x56R cartridge, which is a pretty good-sized mofo. Lots of punch in a small rifle. But don't worry, that straight-pull bolt will hold. Most likely.
You've probably seen the ammo, often dated 1938 and Nazi-marked on clips. I bought a big box of it at one point, but I ultimately didn't have the heart to shoot it up, there was just too much history there. I ended up selling it to a guy in California, just before they implemented their for-the-children "all ammo must go through an FFL" law.
I kept a few clips, but I reload for them now.
Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:51 pm
those are nice and yes that round is pretty big for a small rifle. and if only we go back in time.
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Re: Old Bolt-Action Rifles -- Pics and Info!
Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:06 pm
Sigh. Yes. You could almost just move that decimal point a couple of places over now....