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SSN# on ATF4473?
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 Location: WallaX2 Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 Posts: 253 
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I'm sure this is old hat on here by now from newbs, but my piece just got delivered to the FFL. Hearing all the pro-SSN# / no-SSN# talk on the Form 4473 reasons still has got me undecided only minutely. Maybe using my SSN could make it go without a hitch, but I'm sure even w/o it it would also. Given my situation as a non-CCP holder l would have to wait 5 days anyway (fucking fed working days, IE more like 7-8 days I'm sure). I'm 98.9732% sure I don't want my shit in some possibly dumb, shady or snitch pawnshop owner's log until Ragnarök or some other more possible bullshit involving some other "agencies" "happens" to "come up". So if I'm being tinfoil hat guy say so, otherwise I think its a no-brainer...?
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| Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:47 am |
 
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Site Supporter   Location: Spokane Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 Posts: 9653 Real Name: Hans Edlefreth III.
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If I have your full name I can find out what your SSN is. Also, news flash... The government already knows your SSN.
It isn't hard. Privacy today is a veneer. An illusion. _________________ -A cowardly man thinks he will ever live, if warfare he avoids; but old age will give him no peace, though spears may spare him. "For I have always lived violently, drunk hugely, eaten too much or not at all, slept around the clock or missed two nights of sleeping, worked too hard and too long in glory, or slobbed for a time in utter laziness. I’ve lifted, pulled, chopped, climbed, made love with joy and taken my hangovers as a consequence, not as a punishment." -- John Steinbeck "Experience is one thing you can't get for nothing." -- Oscar Wilde "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one." -- Marcus Aurelius "Now I'm off to check out Drew's dick." -- MadPick |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:56 am |
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Site Admin   Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38322 Real Name: Dan
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NO CPL means you have to wait anyway... I would not put it in.
Drew, he's not worried about the Feds having his SSN, he's worried about the FFL.. All those paper records are a identity thief's wet dream. |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:57 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Spokane Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 Posts: 9653 Real Name: Hans Edlefreth III.
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Massivedesign wrote: NO CPL means you have to wait anyway... I would not put it in. Drew, he's not worried about the Feds having his SSN, he's worried about the FFL.. All those paper records are a identity thief's wet dream. My first sentence covered that. They'll have his full name. That's all you need. _________________ -A cowardly man thinks he will ever live, if warfare he avoids; but old age will give him no peace, though spears may spare him. "For I have always lived violently, drunk hugely, eaten too much or not at all, slept around the clock or missed two nights of sleeping, worked too hard and too long in glory, or slobbed for a time in utter laziness. I’ve lifted, pulled, chopped, climbed, made love with joy and taken my hangovers as a consequence, not as a punishment." -- John Steinbeck "Experience is one thing you can't get for nothing." -- Oscar Wilde "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one." -- Marcus Aurelius "Now I'm off to check out Drew's dick." -- MadPick |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:00 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 Posts: 2516 Real Name: The other Steve
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You are already putting your name and all other related info on there......why not. Thats the way I see it anyways. The feds already have a crap load of info on me anyways (military service, etc) so putting a SSN on another piece of federal paper really doesnt bother me. YMMV
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| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:01 am |
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 Site Moderator   Location: Duvall Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 8668 Real Name: Jaime
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Massivedesign wrote: ...Drew, he's not worried about the Feds having his SSN.... It isn't hard to remember when there are 9 "6"'s in it. _________________ Consider donating to: WAGUNS Second Amendment Foundation Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Join the NRA Firearms Policy Coalition |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:01 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 Posts: 2516 Real Name: The other Steve
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bhpdrew wrote: Massivedesign wrote: NO CPL means you have to wait anyway... I would not put it in. Drew, he's not worried about the Feds having his SSN, he's worried about the FFL.. All those paper records are a identity thief's wet dream. My first sentence covered that. They'll have his full name. That's all you need. Plus, with all the corporate selling of info and all the other forms you have to put a SSN on, I am sure more than enough crooks have easy access to my SSN. Like you said, its not that hard for a crook to get your numbers......unfortunately. |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:10 am |
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Location: WallaX2 Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 Posts: 253
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GODDAMNIT you are right I guess...maybe I could still be safer than the low-hanging fruit, like being faster than the guy next to you while being chased by a vampire horde...but screw it. You should have used the Morpheus "what if I told you" meme.
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| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:17 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lacey Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 Posts: 6311 Real Name: Josh
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The trick is to have crappy enough credit so that no theif will WANT to steal your identity. That's how I avoid identity theft.
_________________ "A man's worth is not proven by supporting the rights of those he agrees with, but rather by defending the rights of those with whom he disagrees." - General Nonsense |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:17 am |
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Location: WallaX2 Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 Posts: 253
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Maybe I could engineer this so I could get out of the rest of my student loans.
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| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:19 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Spokane Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 Posts: 9653 Real Name: Hans Edlefreth III.
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GuyFromV wrote: Maybe I could engineer this so I could get out of the rest of my student loans. Just vote Obama. _________________ -A cowardly man thinks he will ever live, if warfare he avoids; but old age will give him no peace, though spears may spare him. "For I have always lived violently, drunk hugely, eaten too much or not at all, slept around the clock or missed two nights of sleeping, worked too hard and too long in glory, or slobbed for a time in utter laziness. I’ve lifted, pulled, chopped, climbed, made love with joy and taken my hangovers as a consequence, not as a punishment." -- John Steinbeck "Experience is one thing you can't get for nothing." -- Oscar Wilde "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one." -- Marcus Aurelius "Now I'm off to check out Drew's dick." -- MadPick |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:20 am |
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Location: WallaX2 Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 Posts: 253
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I actually voted Cthulhu / Nyarlathotep (Ind.)
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| Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:23 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Sun Oct 7, 2012 Posts: 2282 Real Name: David L.
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GuyFromV wrote: I actually voted Cthulhu / Nyarlathotep (Ind.) Playing it safe, where you?  _________________ If you're not a Sentinel of Liberty, you're a stepping stone to Tyrany... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.” - Jerry Garcia |
| Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:01 am |
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 Location: Lynwood Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 Posts: 13
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If hb1588 passes and you buy from an individual I would leave it off as they get to keep the 4473 forum.
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| Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:27 am |
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Site Admin  Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52131 Real Name: Steve
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Massivedesign wrote: NO CPL means you have to wait anyway... I would not put it in. My thoughts exactly. Give it a try without the SSN. If there is a problem, then next time provide it. I never provide my SSN, and I've never had a problem ... but some folks have just the opposite experience. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
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