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“Zero Tolerance” policies are out of control
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 Location: West of Cascades Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 Posts: 15 
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This is a topic we should pay attention to:
“Zero Tolerance” policies are out of control http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,147689.0.html This is a growing problem on a national scale. Other states have recognized the issue and are taking steps to correct it. Our legislators in Washington should consider doing the same. |
| Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:00 pm |
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Site Supporter   Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581 Real Name: Mike
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Schools prove that there is no correlation of "Knowlege" and "Intelligence".
Teachers may have "knowlege" but "intelligence"??????? Not that I can see. _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:14 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8285
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It's a freak out teeter totter....OMG go that way! OMG go the other way!
Someone needs to stuff a wooden block underneath each end, grab the participants by the collar and shake them back into normalville. ...but, then again.... that would be assault.  _________________ Rara Temporum Felicitas Ubi Sentire Quae Velis Et Quod Velis Dicere Licet. ― Tacitus "Well, nobody's perfect." ― Osgood Fielding III |
| Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:31 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Kitsap County Joined: Sat Jun 9, 2012 Posts: 713 Real Name: Sam
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Probably a good thing I don't have kids... I would send them to school every day in gun related stuff... NRA shirt, Glock hat, Sig Sauer backpack, Remington lunch box, Federal ammunition thermos...
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| Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:21 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 640
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I got a call from my sons principle warning me that if my son was to make a gun out of a paper clip again, he would be expelled. That was in the 3rd grade, two years ago.
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| Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:27 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bainbridge Island Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 Posts: 1684 Real Name: Matt
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viperjody wrote: I got a call from my sons principle warning me that if my son was to make a gun out of a paper clip again, he would be expelled. That was in the 3rd grade, two years ago. _________________ "Using my gun to see at night, and sleeping with my flashlight" - atmosphere |
| Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:26 am |
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Location: West of Cascades Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 Posts: 15
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viperjody wrote: I got a call from my sons principle warning me that if my son was to make a gun out of a paper clip again, he would be expelled. That was in the 3rd grade, two years ago. Thank you, this is a good example of how ridiculous, irrational, and out of control things have become. It's too bad you didn't get Fox News to report on it. The headline would have read, "3rd Grader Threatened With Expulsion for Bending a Paperclip into the Shape of a Gun!" The bent paperclip is every bit a "deadly weapon" as a pop-tart chewed into the shape of a gun, or a piece of paper ripped into the shape of a gun, or an index finger and thumb shaped like a gun (it's worse if they say "pow"), wearing an NRA t-shirt, etc. New information is added to the original post as it is discovered. We may need to push for legislation in Washington to protect our children from the irrational and abusive behaviors of some teachers and school administrators with their total lack of common sense in the application of "Zero Tolerance" policies. This is not propaganda, these incidents are actually happening in Washington and around the country as clearly illustrated in the examples listed to date. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,147689.0.html |
| Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:41 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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Site Supporter  Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19462 Real Name: Rick
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ANZAC wrote: http://www.komonews.com/news/national/School-suspends-boy-for-pointing-finger-like-gun-248381721.html  _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:44 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Snohomish County Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 Posts: 2300
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I remember in 6th grade I got detention for "play fighting". That's right, pretending to do ninja moves on my friend got me 2 hours after school.
Sent from my UAV using Disposition Matrix 2.0 _________________ “I'm cracking eggs of wisdom!” |
| Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:23 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: LaPush, WA Joined: Thu Nov 3, 2011 Posts: 142 Real Name: Skyler
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I know Somebody who was expelled for drawing a picture of a pistol on the whiteboard in class. Her actual nickname is pistol so she drew it for that reason.
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| Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:18 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Tacoma :( Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 2410
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The schools are forced into these policies and decisions by irrational litigious parents. If the school didn't take action they would be sued by shitty parents. I'd love to see people put the blame where it belongs. school administration is in full CYA mode these days because they can't afford any lawsuits when citizens keep cutting the education budget each year.
In the end, we're getting the public education we pay for. _________________ "A nation grown free in a single day is a child born with the limbs and the vigour of a man, who would take a drawn sword for his rattle, and set the house in a blaze that he might chuckle over the splendour." Sydney Smith (1771-1845)
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| Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:24 pm |
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Zero tolerance is an excuse for zero discretion on the part of "leadership".
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| Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:54 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Des Moines, WA Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 Posts: 571
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In fourth grade my son was suspended from school for saying he wanted to nuke the school with a V-2 rocket launcher. The teacher had no idea that a V-2 is bigger than my house and I am sure I would know if he had one. Suspended for three days. On leaving the office my first words to him were you know better than to talk like that......Lets go shooting.
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| Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:36 pm |
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Location: West of Cascades Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 Posts: 15
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The list of examples keeps growing. The cumulative lists are on pages 1 and 2.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,147689.0.html If the link doesn't work, here are the examples of "Zero Tolerance" out of control. Chicago, Ill - February 2014 Zero Tolerance: Chicago School Officials Suspend 11-Year-Old Boy Under ‘Dangerous Weapons’ Policy for Voluntarily Turning in Non-Firing Toy Gun https://www.rutherford.org/publications ... nder_dange Baltimore, Maryland - March 2013 Anne Arundel second-grader suspended for chewing his pastry into the shape of a gun http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/edu ... story.html Related article: Second-grader suspended for having breakfast pastry shaped like a gun http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/02/secon ... ike-a-gun/ Related article: Second-grader suspended for having breakfast pastry shaped like a gun http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/13/suspe ... ds-record/ Suffolk, Virginia - May 2013 "Va. Boy Suspended for Pointing Pencil Like Gun" http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local ... 90721.html Mount Carmel area, PA - January 2013 Pennsylvania girl, 5, suspended for talk of 'shooting' a Hello Kitty 'bubble gun' http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/21/us/pennsy ... -suspended Dennis Township, NJ - 2007 7-year-old suspended over stick-figure drawing http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21397455/#.UwJm34X8s4Z Orange, CA - September 2013 California: High School that Banned NRA T-Shirt Backs Down http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state ... -down.aspx Related article: "Attorney: School Violated Girl's Rights Over NRA T-Shirt" http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local ... Shirt.html Montgomery County, Maryland - January 2013 "Montgomery Co. Student Suspended For 'Gun' Gesture" http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local ... 74841.html Related article: "1st Grader Suspended for Gun Gesture" http://news.yahoo.com/first-grader-susp ... ories.html Related article: "Montgomery Co. student suspended for gun gesture gets school record cleared" http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/mo ... 83639.html Grand Island, Nebraska - August 2012 "Nebraska family, school at odds over deaf boy’s ‘gun-like’ sign language name" http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/29/ne ... -language/ Newark,Del - October 2009 "It’s a Fork, It’s a Spoon, It’s a ... Weapon?" http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/educa ... pline.html Kitchner, Ontario, Canada - February 2012 "Man shocked by arrest after daughter draws picture of gun at school" http://www.therecord.com/news-story/259 ... at-school/ Coventry RI - June 2010 "School Bans Hat Over Toy Soldiers' Guns" http://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-bans ... iers-guns/ Hammonton, N.J. - February 2011 "Cops Charge 7-Year-Old for Bringing Toy Gun to Class" http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... 25844.html Oklahoma City, OK - January 2011 ‘Gun’ Hand Gesture Gets Oklahoma 1st-Grader Suspended http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/01 ... suspended/ Sayreville, NJ - March 2000 ‘Cops and robbers’ to be played out in court Sayreville parents have filed a lawsuit against the district http://sub.gmnews.com/news/2000-06-07/F ... e/f12.html Related article: The Rutherford Institute defends kindergartner suspended for playing make-believe game of 'cobs & robbers' https://www.rutherford.org/publications ... ines/pr331 Related article: Zero-tolerance policies victimize 'good' kids http://www.wnd.com/2000/06/4522/ Alexandria, VA - February 2013 Va. student displayed toy gun on school bus, police say http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/stu ... story.html Missouri - February 2013 Third-grader suspended over toy gun on fob http://www.newstribune.com/news/2013/fe ... y-gun-fob/ Hyannis, MA - January 2013 Hyannis West student, 5, warned for making Lego gun http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/207575 ... g-lego-gun Florida - March 2013 High-schooler suspended for disarming student holding loaded gun http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/04/high- ... oaded-gun/ Pasco, WA - March 2013 Washington boy suspended for talking about toy Nerf guns, suspension overturned http://www.examiner.com/article/washing ... overturned Related article: Pasco School District overturns 6-year-old's suspension for discussing toy gun http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2013/03/0 ... turns.html Spokane, WA - November 2013 Gonzaga Students Hit With Probation for Pulling Gun on Intruder http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... -intruder/ Related article: Gonzaga to reinforce zero tolerance firearms policy through campus meetings http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/g ... index.html Edmunds, WA - June 2013 Wash. elementary school students reportedly suspended for using Nerf guns http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/05/wa ... at-school/ Philadelphia, PA - January 2013 Fifth-grader reprimanded for bringing paper ‘gun’ to school Watch the video. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/fif ... 22936.html Related article: Mom Says School Went Too Far Punishing Child For 'Paper Gun' http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/206535 ... r-airplane Sumter, SC - January 2013 Sumter kindergartener expelled for bringing toy gun to school http://www.thestate.com/2013/01/31/2612 ... Qqe5R2x98E Virginia Beach, VA - September 2013 7th-graders suspended for playing with airsoft gun in own yard http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/24/7t ... -own-yard/ Trappe, Maryland - January 2013 First-graders reportedly suspended for using fingers as ‘guns’ while playing cops and robbers http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1241260 Related article: White Marsh Elementary first-graders suspended for using fingers as guns while playing http://www.myeasternshoremd.com/news/ta ... 963f4.html Pennsylvania - December 2013 10-year old Johnny Jones suspended for shooting imaginary arrow http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/12/10 ... ary-arrow/ Related link: Fifth Grader Suspended for Shooting Imaginary Arrow!? http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/12/07/fi ... nary-arrow Related link: Rutherford Institute Defends 10-Year-Old Suspended for Shooting Imaginary Arrow, Threatened with Expulsion Under Weapons Policy https://www.rutherford.org/publications ... maginary_a Palmer, Massachusetts - May 2013 6-year old brings Quarter-sized toy gun on bus, threatened with detention and suspension http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/6- ... uspension/ related link: New Developments in Lego Gun Incident in Palmer http://www.wggb.com/2013/05/28/abc40-to ... in-palmer/ Charleston, West Virgina - April 2013 Jared Marcum: Eighth Grader Jailed For Wearing NRA T-Shirt to School http://www.policymic.com/articles/37057 ... -to-school Related link: 8th grade student suspended for wearing NRA t-shirt http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/22050127/su ... ra-t-shirt Related linik: Dad of West Virginia boy arrested over NRA shirt says he'll fight punishment http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/23/da ... unishment/ Related link: W. Va. teen who refused to remove NRA shirt at school could face jail time in related charge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/w ... -1.1374155 OWINGS, MD - June 2013 WMAL EXCLUSIVE: 11-Yr-Old Suspended From School For Merely TALKING About Guns http://pro.wmal-af.tritonflex.com/commo ... &is_corp=0 Related link: Boy suspended for discussing guns on bus http://www.onenewsnow.com/education/201 ... wudIoX8s4Y Columbus, OH - March 2014 Boy, 10, Suspended for Making Gun with Fingers http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2014/03/ ... arm-usage/ Related article: Ohio Fifth-Grader Suspended for Exposing Other Students to a ‘Level 2 Lookalike Firearm’ (Guess What It Was) http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03 ... at-it-was/ Related article: "Boy suspended for bringing own hand to school" http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/09/opinion/c ... inger-gun/ Upstate New York - March 2014 "New York high school student suspended for NRA pro-2nd Amendment T-shirt" http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/13/ne ... t-t-shirt/ Related article: "Victory: NY School Reverses Suspension for Student Wearing NRA Shirt" http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobr ... t-n1828359 Ohio - March 2014 "High school senior jailed, kicked out of school and may lose Army dream because of pocket knife in car" http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/18/hi ... m-because/ Related article: Attorney: School's overreaction to pocket knife may destroy teen's future http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2014/04/ ... ns-future/ Los Angeles, CA – April 2014 “‘Punished for Teaching Science’: Popular Teacher Suspended for ‘Research and Development of Imitation Weapons’” http://blog.heritage.org/2014/04/18/pun ... n-weapons/ Widefield, Colorado – May 2014 “Child Disciplined for Thinking about a Gun” http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/2014/05/2 ... out-a-gun/ Related article” “Gun Picture Gets Boy In Trouble” http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Gun- ... 59701.html New Kensington, Pennsylvania – June 2014 “New Ken first-grader suspended for having toy gun; expulsion possible” http://triblive.com/neighborhoods/youra ... z34A6nuhum Related article: “First grader turns himself in for having toy gun, faces expulsion” http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2014/06/ ... expulsion/ Florence, Arizona - February 2013 Ariz. high school student suspended over gun picture http://news.msn.com/us/ariz-high-school ... un-picture Related link: Florence student suspended over picture of gun http://www.abc15.com/news/region-centra ... ure-of-gun Related link: High-school freshman suspended for having a picture of a gun http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/02/high- ... -of-a-gun/ SUMMERVILLE, SC - August 2014 Police, lawyer release statements on student's alleged dinosaur killing http://www.nbc12.com/story/26319685/cop ... assignment Wisconsin - September 2014 "Could This Tiny Picture Get an 11-Year-Old Boy Expelled from School?" http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09 ... om-school/ "11-year-old to be expelled for bringing a virtual gun to a virtual school?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkux-jSvQn8 Related article: "Virtual School Practices Real Oppression, Bans Pixilated Firearms" http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... earms.aspx Vernon, N.J. - April, 2014 Outrage of the Week: Zero-Tolerance Policies Now Exploited by Enterprising Bullies http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... llies.aspx Related Article: Watch the video: Ethan Chaplin, Student, Says He Was Suspended For Twirling Pencil http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/0 ... 06069.html Mobile, Ala. – October, 2014 “Crayon "Gun" Subjects 5-year-old to Suicide/Homicide Screening and Non-Violence "Contract"” http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... tract.aspx Related article: “Mobile County kindergartner asked to sign 'safety contract' after drawing a picture of gun” http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf ... gn_sa.html Lewiston Maine – April, 2014 “Outrage of the Week: One Yellow Squirt Gun, Plus Zero Common Sense Enforcement, Equals 10-Day Suspension” http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... nsion.aspx Related article: “School suspends 10th-grader for having bright yellow squirt gun” http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/17/schoo ... 248,142791 Milford, Mass. – November 2014 “School Suspends Fifth-Grader Armed with Finger, Childlike Imagination” http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/artic ... ation.aspx Related article: “Milford School Committee responds to suspension of 5th-grader” http://www.milforddailynews.com/article ... /141129132 Warner Robins, Georgia - August 2014 Child suspended for bringing NERF gun to school http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/new ... /13702993/ Colorado Springs, Colorado – March 2015 “6-Year-Old Suspended For Pointing Fingers In The Shape Of A Gun” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/0 ... 13864.html Atlantic City, N.J. - May 2015 Mother Says Son Suspended Over Nerf Bullet In New Jersey http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/0 ... oy-bullet/ Related Article: Finger-gun Slinger in Chief Rides Again, Conveys Hopeful Message to America's Kids https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015052 ... ricas-kids Dallas Texas - September 2015 Texas high school student suspended over American flag T-shirt http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/20/te ... g-t-shirt/ Gresham, OR - October 2015 Gresham eighth grader suspended for refusing to remove fallen soldier t-shirt http://www.kptv.com/story/30225044/gres ... is-t-shirt Oregon middle school student suspended for wearing fallen soldier shirt showing gun http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2392168 Principal sends student home for patriotic shirt with gun http://koin.com/2015/10/08/8th-grader-s ... -with-gun/ |
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