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House Bill 2164 Questions
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House Bill 2164 Questions
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 Location: Arlington, Wa Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2012 Posts: 935 
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I was looking over (Many times) HB 2164 and had questions if you guys know...
1) Can I sell and buy guns from people that have a cpl without the background check? 2) Can I sell a C&R rifle to someone without a background check? Looks like a yes if this passes. |
| Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:05 pm |
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Site Supporter   Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6227 Real Name: Paris
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Just read the intro.
I looks like it catches all the groups we have been complaining about that are affected by this useless and dumb law. They did a good job clarifying exactly who can transfer firearms! I think this is the bill we all have been looking for. Unless there is something else buried that is bad this looks like a bill to support. They also finally defined what a "transfer" is! Gee now how had was that. Where has the AG been again???? Read the whole thing and lets push this bill! _________________ Paris You can never be too prepared. Consider the ant thou sluggard. Proverbs 27:12 -- “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Need Long term Food or Survival Supplies, I have extras, Grab the Supplies_Available.pdf. Prices Quoted are close to my actual cost: https://backupcomputing.workplace.datto.com/filelink/6af06-883bf7e-31d469c0e1-2 Link corrected 1/30/2021. The prudent Wagunner trains and prepares to defend themselves and their families, friends, and neighbors. They also are prepared to feed, shelter, and provide aid as well. Danger is coming and may already be here, how prepared are you? Click the link above for lots of good info to get started. Last edited by Col_Temp on Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:17 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:09 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Wasn't this one of the bills killed in exchange for killing the firearms confiscation provisions in that mental health bill? Or am I confused? I thought this one had gone the way of the dodo to placate Jinkins. I'd dearly love to be wrong about that.
_________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela |
| Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:15 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6227 Real Name: Paris
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Hi Mislabeled (we know who you are!)
Looks like it got referred. Leg website doesn't show it dead but it may be. Of course that's typical of bills that actually do something! _________________ Paris You can never be too prepared. Consider the ant thou sluggard. Proverbs 27:12 -- “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Need Long term Food or Survival Supplies, I have extras, Grab the Supplies_Available.pdf. Prices Quoted are close to my actual cost: https://backupcomputing.workplace.datto.com/filelink/6af06-883bf7e-31d469c0e1-2 Link corrected 1/30/2021. The prudent Wagunner trains and prepares to defend themselves and their families, friends, and neighbors. They also are prepared to feed, shelter, and provide aid as well. Danger is coming and may already be here, how prepared are you? Click the link above for lots of good info to get started. |
| Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:23 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Midwest Joined: Thu Oct 2, 2014 Posts: 8645
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Col_Temp wrote: Hi Mislabeled (we know who you are!) that just sounds....creepy i hope it is still alive. _________________ Massivedesign wrote: I am thinking of a number somewhere between none of and your business. |
| Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:27 am |
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Site Supporter Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Col_Temp wrote: Hi Mislabeled (we know who you are!) Howdy, Col_Temp! Hadn't seen you in a while, was getting ready to send you an e-mail making sure you were still around.  Col_Temp wrote: Looks like it got referred. Leg website doesn't show it dead but it may be. Of course that's typical of bills that actually do something! We'll have to keep an eye on this one. It looked like a good start on the 594 dismantlement effort. _________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela |
| Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:40 am |
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Site Moderator   Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12509 Real Name: Oly Damon
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mislabeled wrote: Col_Temp wrote: Hi Mislabeled (we know who you are!) Howdy, Col_Temp! Hadn't seen you in a while, was getting ready to send you an e-mail making sure you were still around. Col_Temp wrote: Looks like it got referred. Leg website doesn't show it dead but it may be. Of course that's typical of bills that actually do something! We'll have to keep an eye on this one. It looked like a good start on the 594 dismantlement effort. Hopefully they can get it down to where only criminals have to get background checks... |
| Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:58 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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swan_derek wrote: I was looking over (Many times) HB 2164 and had questions if you guys know... 1) Can I sell and buy guns from people that have a cpl without the background check? 2) Can I sell a C&R rifle to someone without a background check? Looks like a yes if this passes. I don't have anything to back this up, so it is one man's opinion, but re 2) even with 594 as law, it excludes any situation where there is a "specific federal or state exemption". C&R FFL's are given a specific federal exemption in 18 USC 922 when buying C&R firearms. (even though C&R FFLs are not defined as dealers under 594) That said, if something makes that requirement or exemption more clear, it couldn't hurt. |
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