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Gary Slider
Location: New Martinsville, West Virginia Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 Posts: 14
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www.handgunlaw.us is seeking assistance in cataloging all the states laws/regs on keeping a long gun in a vehicle all the time. Due to what is happening in the world and here at home I am seeing the question more and more about carrying a long gun in a vehicle all the time. What just happened in Canada got me 5 emails on the day it happened and at least one every days since about Long Guns in Vehicles. Loaded/Unloaded. Cased/Uncased. Trunk or back of vehicle or anywhere in the vehicle or not allowed etc etc. Information people would need to stay within the law in their state or a state they travel to with a long gun in their vehicle. Sad to say but it is us good guys/gals that only obey the law but we have to know what they are to stay within them. All this info will be assembled and put into one document for all the states. It will be available free for anyone who wishes to view the information. There is no more knowledgeable people to ask than those who live and use firearms in their home state is the reason I am asking this on a lot of different state specific Firearm Forums. The laws/Administrative Rules Laws on Long Guns can be almost non-existent or spelled out completely. Many times they can be found in the hunting laws. If you could assist Handgunlaw.us with the alpha/numeric code for a state statute or Administrative Rule or a link to the states hunting laws that spell out the states stance on carrying long guns in vehicles it would be greatly appreciated. I have to have something official from a state agency. I would appreciate an email with the info sent to admins@handgunlaw.us as I can miss PM’s etc if possible. This will takes a few months to gather all this info and catalog it as I have to check everything out. I will post a link to the finished document on every Firearm Forum that I post this request on. That link will also be added to www.handgunlaw.us Thank you for your time and assistance. Handgunlaw.us is what it is because of all the assistance I get from those who give me a heads up on law changes and help me in so many different ways to keep Handgunlaw.us up to date.
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Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:03 pm |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15235
Real Name: chris
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581
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cmica wrote: http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460 What's both interesting and stupid, all at the same time, is that this firearm regulation is buried in the Fish and Wildlife reg's, not under the RCW "Title" covering Firearms. FWIW, one can carry a handgun in a vehicle loaded with as many rounds as they can stuff in a magazine yet can't even have a loaded magazine "attached" to the rifle in any way, even if not inserted in the mag-well.
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mislabeled
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Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Is it worth mentioning the no-carry-while-riding-a-snowmobile thing? I'm not sure that would be a normal restriction for people to think about, and if the RCW is buried in the DFW section then it's likely to be missed. Sorry, I don't have the link handy.
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Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:52 pm |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15235
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mislabeled wrote: Is it worth mentioning the no-carry-while-riding-a-snowmobile thing? I'm not sure that would be a normal restriction for people to think about, and if the RCW is buried in the DFW section then it's likely to be missed. Sorry, I don't have the link handy. http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.10.495
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Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:28 pm |
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mislabeled
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Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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cmica wrote: mislabeled wrote: Is it worth mentioning the no-carry-while-riding-a-snowmobile thing? I'm not sure that would be a normal restriction for people to think about, and if the RCW is buried in the DFW section then it's likely to be missed. Sorry, I don't have the link handy. http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.10.495Booyah! That's what I'm talkin' about. @cmica - thanks for posting that.
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Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:55 am |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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CPL holders not exempted from that?
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Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:10 am |
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Gary Slider
Location: New Martinsville, West Virginia Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 Posts: 14
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Things have been going much better than I ever imagined. Thanks to everyone who has given me feedback. It has really helped! This is all still in draft form. I will say that I caused some lively debate on some state forums. Information was exchanged and laws discussed and in some cases there was no clear answer. Some depended on what the definition of “IS” is! Had to throw that “Is” in there as some laws are so hard to understand and even read. It just showed how out of touch some lawmakers are/were when writing gun laws. I have reworked the first page trying to explain that people need to look at Places off Limits etc on each States Page at www.handgunlaw.us. Plus other information they need to be aware of. I have also made the states name on each section a link to that States Page at Handgunlaw.us so they can access it easily. The states I have information for still need looked at by others and feedback on what may need added or removed would be greatly appreciated. The biggest problem is that if there is no law against something it is legal. Laws are so varied and spread out in the Statutes/Administrative Rules and Hunting Regulations it can be tough to find some of them. Then if there is not a law against it you can search forever and there is nothing to find. I have been cautious on some state entries. I just don’t have enough information and don’t want to get someone arrested and maybe lose their gun rights. That is where your feedback can assist me. Then we get to the Catch 22 again as there may be no law against it so you can’t show a statute/Rule Etc that states it is legal! Below is a link to the latest Draft. Again feedback is most welcome! This is the same link to the first Draft Document. I just updated it. Thanks again to everyone who has assisted me. It is very much appreciated! http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/Long ... cument.pdf
_________________Stay Safe, Gary Slider Co-Owner Handgunlaw.usMember Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:15 pm |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15235
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:37 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52068
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Good suggestion, done. And thanks for the link.
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delliottg
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Location: Duvall Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 4604
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Have you considered turning this into an app for smart phones?
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:43 pm |
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bhpdrew
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Location: Spokane Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 Posts: 9653
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ANZAC wrote: CPL holders not exempted from that? No, they are not.
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:01 pm |
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Gary Slider
Location: New Martinsville, West Virginia Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 Posts: 14
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There will not be an app. To expensive to create then keeping it updated.
_________________Stay Safe, Gary Slider Co-Owner Handgunlaw.usMember Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network
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mislabeled
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Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Gary - Thanks for all the work you do on this, I reference your site frequently and it's been tremendously helpful.
_________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela
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joao01
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Location: Midwest Joined: Thu Oct 2, 2014 Posts: 8645
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bhpdrew wrote: ANZAC wrote: CPL holders not exempted from that? No, they are not. Part of the reason it should be a CWP instead of CPL.
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