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Live in Seattle? Oppose Seattle's Gun Tax!
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solyanik
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Seattle Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 Posts: 3420
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I've made this page because it does not have any association with the store, and thus can be promoted. https://www.facebook.com/NoGunTaxPlease call/email the council members - the contact information is on the page!
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:38 pm |
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PAPISJEEP
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Location: lewis county Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 Posts: 1777
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this is gonna be legendary........
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:39 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52067
Real Name: Steve
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PAPISJEEP wrote: this is gonna be legendary........ No, it isn't. Stay serious and on topic. Be part of the solution here, please.
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:43 pm |
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Classic
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Location: Federal Way Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 Posts: 5492
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Really? The owner of the Precise shooter "CHOSE NOT TO GO ON CAMERA TO DEFEND HIS RIGHTS" has STARTED THIS THREAD and is trying to imply it can't be promoted? I'm forwarding this to the Seattle Times! solyanik wrote: I've made this page because it does not have any association with the store, and thus can be promoted. https://www.facebook.com/NoGunTaxPlease call/email the council members - the contact information is on the page!
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:59 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52067
Real Name: Steve
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Gary, he says it CAN be promoted. Not CAN'T.
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:01 pm |
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Sinus211
Site Moderator
Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13507
Real Name: Mike
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Welcome to the divergence of ethics gentlemen.
Viewpoint 1- I believe that opposing a gun tax is right because it utilizes a loophole to place an undue hardship on gun owners/firearms enthusiasts by singling out a minority group and taxing them unfairly to promote the anti-gun agenda
Viewpoint 2- I believe that opposing a gun tax is right because the progressive liberals I support are going to shut down my new gun store
Ethically I strongly support an effort to contain and quash this bullshit attempt at taxing firearms enthusiasts. But oh, what is that you say little devil on my shoulder? Someone stands to get what's coming to them? Huh.
Personal vendettas aside, I will fight this with the rest of you. But, not through viewpoint 2's facebook page aimed at bolstering his personal agenda. We'll fight this out in the open. And when we win, we'll win for us. Not for a gun store owner who could stand a taste of his own medicine.
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:20 pm |
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Classic
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Location: Federal Way Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 Posts: 5492
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sinus211 wrote: Welcome to the divergence of ethics gentlemen.
Viewpoint 1- I believe that opposing a gun tax is right because it utilizes a loophole to place an undue hardship on gun owners/firearms enthusiasts by singling out a minority group and taxing them unfairly to promote the anti-gun agenda
Viewpoint 2- I believe that opposing a gun tax is right because the progressive liberals I support are going to shut down my new gun store
Ethically I strongly support an effort to contain and quash this bullshit attempt at taxing firearms enthusiasts. But oh, what is that you say little devil on my shoulder? Someone stands to get what's coming to them? Huh.
Personal vendettas aside, I will fight this with the rest of you. But, not through viewpoint 2's facebook page aimed at bolstering his personal agenda. We'll fight this out in the open. And when we win, we'll win for us. Not for a gun store owner who could stand a taste of his own medicine. Amen Bro
_________________ Banned for calling GOD a racist! Oh that's tight, Seattle guns is DEAD!
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:25 pm |
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H2obouget
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Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2222
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Frankly, the time and effort would be better spent prepping your State preemption lawsuit against the city.
This will pass the Seattle city council. They have already said that they believe that the state preemption does not apply so the moved forward on it. This tells me they just need to go through the steps before they actually vote. And it is THEY, the Seattle super left council who will be voting. The is like a snow balls chance in hell that they say no to, 1) a tax on a group they hate, 2) on guns too.....its a two-ffer!
Better to direct your energy to hooking up with SAF and being prepared to file the preemption lawsuit 2 sec after they pass this BS thing.
Also, if I'm not mistaken...the 25/.05 wording has surfaced before...find that and I think we'll find a source of the problem.
The second part also needs to be shut down. Thatakes it a civil infraction if your gun is lost or stolden and you don't report it within 24 hours after you discover it. The issue is in the wording of the civil infraction....its up to 500, and the judge can determine if you owe restitution oor compensation to any parties effected.
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:41 pm |
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APA
Location: kirkland Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2011 Posts: 2999
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Vote for liberals get liberal crap
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:50 pm |
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DSynger
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Location: Kansas City Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 Posts: 2790
Real Name: Brad
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You realize the city and it's gun control supporters are now getting free publicity about the impact of state preemption. There is no way we come out looking good or preemption looks good. We're already in saber rattling mode saying it's unfair and it won't pass. While Seattle says they just want to tax a little bit more to cover what non-gun owners are already covering and to implement interventions to reduce repeat gun violence. They know all they need to do is poke us with a stick enough and someone will say something stupid.
I hate to see this happen, because it'll impact businesses. But it's also a really good set up for a preemption initiative in the near future.
Good luck to us all, we're gonna need it.
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:03 pm |
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Massivedesign
Site Admin
Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38310
Real Name: Dan
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H2obouget wrote: Frankly, the time and effort would be better spent prepping your State preemption lawsuit against the city.
This will pass the Seattle city council. They have already said that they believe that the state preemption does not apply so the moved forward on it. This tells me they just need to go through the steps before they actually vote. And it is THEY, the Seattle super left council who will be voting. The is like a snow balls chance in hell that they say no to, 1) a tax on a group they hate, 2) on guns too.....its a two-ffer!
Better to direct your energy to hooking up with SAF and being prepared to file the preemption lawsuit 2 sec after they pass this BS thing.
Also, if I'm not mistaken...the 25/.05 wording has surfaced before...find that and I think we'll find a source of the problem.
The second part also needs to be shut down. Thatakes it a civil infraction if your gun is lost or stolden and you don't report it within 24 hours after you discover it. The issue is in the wording of the civil infraction....its up to 500, and the judge can determine if you owe restitution oor compensation to any parties effected. Winner! DSynger wrote: You realize the city and it's gun control supporters are now getting free publicity about the impact of state preemption. There is no way we come out looking good or preemption looks good. We're already in saber rattling mode saying it's unfair and it won't pass. While Seattle says they just want to tax a little bit more to cover what non-gun owners are already covering and to implement interventions to reduce repeat gun violence. They know all they need to do is poke us with a stick enough and someone will say something stupid.
I hate to see this happen, because it'll impact businesses. But it's also a really good set up for a preemption initiative in the near future.
Good luck to us all, we're gonna need it. Yup, thought along the same lines yesterday. This is a perfect setup to show why, in their minds, preemption's bad... They can't do little things, you know, common sense things.. Get preemption repealed then BAM, welcome to Seattlfornia..
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:20 am |
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3584ELK
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253
Real Name: Mark
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It always amazes me how we (the silent majority) are 1) Silent on issues that matter; 2) The infighting is the greater issue at times; 3) Gun owners cannot seem to organize an event that shows we are made up of more than the camo/ Rambo fellas.
The lefties have no problem standing up and shouting for their "rights", yet we seem to fall short with a far bigger majority. You even see this in Congress. Are we too gentlemanly? Too polite? Or are we too busy working and supporting our families?
Just a few points to ponder.
_________________"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:53 am |
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mash man
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Location: Airway heights Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 Posts: 12246
Real Name: Michael
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102 likes? Not looking so good!
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:58 am |
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never_to_much
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Location: Snohomish Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 2034
Real Name: Steven
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The 2nd amendment foundation is ready and waiting to bitch slap seattle again
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:07 am |
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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
Real Name: Kyle
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sinus211 wrote: Welcome to the divergence of ethics gentlemen.
Viewpoint 1- I believe that opposing a gun tax is right because it utilizes a loophole to place an undue hardship on gun owners/firearms enthusiasts by singling out a minority group and taxing them unfairly to promote the anti-gun agenda
Viewpoint 2- I believe that opposing a gun tax is right because the progressive liberals I support are going to shut down my new gun store
Ethically I strongly support an effort to contain and quash this bullshit attempt at taxing firearms enthusiasts. But oh, what is that you say little devil on my shoulder? Someone stands to get what's coming to them? Huh.
Personal vendettas aside, I will fight this with the rest of you. But, not through viewpoint 2's facebook page aimed at bolstering his personal agenda. We'll fight this out in the open. And when we win, we'll win for us. Not for a gun store owner who could stand a taste of his own medicine. Holy shit! Did you just say that? All that sense and I wonder what your IQ is? Couldn't have saidit better bud. Nice work.
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