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Family member dies, he wished a pistol to go to another family member, but filed no paperwork. How does ffl transfer work?


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you want no paper work then don't go to ffl

just write a BOS

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Family member dies, he wished a pistol to go to another family member, but filed no paperwork. How does ffl transfer work?


To follow the intent of 594, the PR or Executor of the will or estate would deliver the pistol to an FFL to which the receiver would show up to and the FFL would perform a check. If all is well, the receiver is given the pistol.

The FFL doesn't care who the seller is, all that matters is that the BUYER is BGC'd.


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Sat May 21, 2016 5:25 pm
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Yes. Let's risk the entire probate process because of a firearm.


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quantsuff wrote:
Family member dies, he wished a pistol to go to another family member, but filed no paperwork. How does ffl transfer work?


To follow the intent of 594, the PR or Executor of the will or estate would deliver the pistol to an FFL to which the receiver would show up to and the FFL would perform a check. If all is well, the receiver is given the pistol.

The FFL doesn't care who the seller is, all that matters is that the BUYER is BGC'd.

thanks.
what is PR?


Sat May 21, 2016 5:35 pm
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Estate transfer ("by operation of law") is exempt from 594 providing you file the state pistol transfer form (no cost). You can also go to an FFL if you want.

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A person who (i) acquired a firearm other than a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the firearm or (ii) acquired a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the pistol within the preceding sixty days. At the end of the sixty-day period, the person must either have lawfully transferred the pistol or must have contacted the department of licensing to notify the department that he or she has possession of the pistol and intends to retain possession of the pistol, in compliance with all federal and state laws.


Sat May 21, 2016 6:39 pm
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Excellent, thank you. Any idea what the form is called, so I can search it?


Sat May 21, 2016 8:59 pm
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Estate transfer ("by operation of law") is exempt from 594 providing you file the state pistol transfer form (no cost). You can also go to an FFL if you want.

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A person who (i) acquired a firearm other than a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the firearm or (ii) acquired a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the pistol within the preceding sixty days. At the end of the sixty-day period, the person must either have lawfully transferred the pistol or must have contacted the department of licensing to notify the department that he or she has possession of the pistol and intends to retain possession of the pistol, in compliance with all federal and state laws.

Wait, the firearm in question is a pistol, so, executor and I go ffl, correct? Must there be a bill of sale if the pistol is gift?


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No, it looks like a pistol is also exempt from 594 via inheritance as long as either / or of those items are done.

Here is the Pistol Transfer form from DOL: http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652001.pdf


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Except the pistol form is "Pistol transfer application" ( buyer and dealer info required ). Signature line specifically states purchasing.

So what exactly is meant by notify? Same as C&R notify? Dear DOL, I am intending to keep pistol. Signed, John It doesn't say fill out pistol purchasing form.


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Bluewedge, welcome to WaGuns! :wavey:

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So what exactly is meant by notify? Same as C&R notify? Dear DOL, I am intending to keep pistol. Signed, John It doesn't say fill out pistol purchasing form.


Yup. Who the hell knows what "notify" means, maybe it's as simple as sending a carrier pigeon or whatever.

What is "C&R notify"? I've never heard of that. Are you talking about notifying the CLEO when you apply for a C&R?

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Bluewedge wrote:
Except the pistol form is "Pistol transfer application" ( buyer and dealer info required ). Signature line specifically states purchasing.



It does say "buyer" but if you read what the signature line is for - the person taking the "pistol" It's the transfer and typically in that language... the person taking ownership is typically called a buyer.
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I certify I am eligible to possess a pistol under RCW 9.41.040 and 9.41.045. I understand by signing this application I am waiving confidentiality and requesting the Department of Social and Health Services, mental health institutions, and other health care facilities, to release information relevant to my eligibility to purchase a pistol to a court or law enforcement agency. I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the state of Washington that the statements and other information set forth in this application are true and correct. RCW 9A.72.040


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Guess it was my first post here.

The law doesn't say fill out pistol transfer "application" form to notify. You are not applying but notifying. The form isn't a notify form and the law doesn't specify giving any more information than notification. It has many more fields and information all relating to purchasing.

Yes, I was referring to precedence with firearms is C&R CLEO notify or the soon to be 41. Might be too logical.

Guess that is why we have lawyers, so they can figure it out for us.


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Good thing we aren't in West Virginia or Kentucky. If I'm correct one doesn't need to do a "594 transfer through FFL" if the firearm is going to a direct family member. Back there that would mean that you could give/sell your firearm to just about anyone in the state if you get what I mean :wink05: :wink05:

I used to think it was a joke until I worked back there for a couple months and got to know a few people who'd lived there all their lives. It really could be possible for two to get a divorce yet remain cousins.

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