Gun store Shooting Locations It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:26 pm



Rules WGO Chat Room Gear Rent Me Shield NRA SAF CCKRBA
Calendar


Forum rules


Nothing contained in this section shall be construed as legal advice. All members and guests are advised to perform due diligence in regards to laws and legal actions.



Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
 what does loaded rifle mean in RCW 
Author Message
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Midwest
Joined: Thu Oct 2, 2014
Posts: 8645
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460

For transport, If I understand correctly, I cannot have a magazine in the well, even if the chamber is empty, correct?

From what I gather, there is no requirement for the rifle to be out of reach, correct? (it will be in a case anyway)

_________________
Massivedesign wrote:
I am thinking of a number somewhere between none of and your business.


Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:52 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Marysville, WA
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011
Posts: 11581
Real Name: Mike
This statement is worth noting

Quote:
(5) For purposes of subsection (1) of this section, a rifle or shotgun shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the rifle or shotgun.


For those who have a "Redi-Mag" device (that holds a magazine next to the magazine well) or any other magazine holder attached to the weapon, it would appear to most who read the above (including police) that the weapon is loaded.

As for it being out of reach, no requirement. With the exception above there is no requirement that the ammunition be in a separate location.

With a AR one can carry it in a vehicle with the bolt locked back and a magazine within reach. By the time you exit the vehicle a magazine can be inserted, the bolt released, and ready to go. If you take the law re: long guns and vehicles at it's face you technically can't fire it from within the vehicle although I'm sure one could use Self Defense as an affirmative defense should it come to that.

_________________
"I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
" - William Shakespeare


Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:12 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Bonney Lake
Joined: Sun Oct 7, 2012
Posts: 2279
Real Name: David L.
deadshot2 wrote:
This statement is worth noting

Quote:
(5) For purposes of subsection (1) of this section, a rifle or shotgun shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the rifle or shotgun.


For those who have a "Redi-Mag" device (that holds a magazine next to the magazine well) or any other magazine holder attached to the weapon, it would appear to most who read the above (including police) that the weapon is loaded.

As for it being out of reach, no requirement. With the exception above there is no requirement that the ammunition be in a separate location.

With a AR one can carry it in a vehicle with the bolt locked back and a magazine within reach. By the time you exit the vehicle a magazine can be inserted, the bolt released, and ready to go. If you take the law re: long guns and vehicles at it's face you technically can't fire it from within the vehicle although I'm sure one could use Self Defense as an affirmative defense should it come to that.



Thanks for pointing that out. I have mag carrier clips on one of my carbine stocks. Guess I'll make sure they are empty when transporting...

_________________
If you're not a Sentinel of Liberty, you're a stepping stone to Tyrany...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
“Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.” - Jerry Garcia


Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:18 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Midwest
Joined: Thu Oct 2, 2014
Posts: 8645
what about shotgun shells in a side saddle? Would that make a shotgun "loaded" since the rounds are on it?

_________________
Massivedesign wrote:
I am thinking of a number somewhere between none of and your business.


Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:20 am
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Marysville, WA
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011
Posts: 11581
Real Name: Mike
joao01 wrote:
what about shotgun shells in a side saddle? Would that make a shotgun "loaded" since the rounds are on it?


I believe a literal translation of the definition I posted makes those legal. The side-saddle is not a magazine and the shot shells have to be removed from it, then loaded one at a time.

I carry a shotgun with a side-saddle on it in my truck from time to time. I also have a copy of this definition in my truck console for any officer that cares to read it. Never have had to use that copy yet but it may well come in handy if I do get stopped.

_________________
"I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
" - William Shakespeare


Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:39 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 5 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 36 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum



Rules WGO Chat Room Gear Rent Me NRA SAF CCKRBA
Calendar


Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.
[ Time : 2.586s | 16 Queries | GZIP : Off ]