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 Sending a pistol to myself 
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Hey all, I am here in GA right now but might be going back to WA for a short time for some business. The question is, can I send my carry pistol back to my home in WA via mail or FedEx, or does it need to go through an FFL? I am thinking about not checking a bag on the trip and thought I heard about being able to send guns to yourself. Might be wrong. If you happen to have links to the law that would be awesome. I'm not having any success on Google for once.


Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:12 pm
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I'm quite certain that you can, but I don't have any links to offer you.

A couple of other things:
- You can't send it by US Mail if you're not an FFL holder. You'll need to use UPS or FedEx.
- With UPS or FedEx, you'll need to send it overnight, so it'll probably cost you a bunch of money, probably north of $50 somewhere, maybe $75.

I'd just check the bag. :bigsmile:

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Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:36 pm
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You can mail long guns to yourself. I doubt you will find a common carrier that will ship your handgun to a non license holder.

The last time I shipped a pistol was two years ago, UPS, to a FFL in the Chicago area and it was about $100 and they required it to be overnight.

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why not airport and fly it with you?


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Yes, you may ship to yourself.

Good links here straight from ATF : https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/unlicensed-persons

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-non ... l-activity

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-non ... ct-carrier

I don't remember a requirement to ship overnight. Source for that?

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https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resou ... earms.html
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Use These UPS Services for Your Firearm Shipment
Handguns, as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921, will be accepted for transportation only via UPS Next Day Air Services, specifically, UPS Next Day Air® Early, UPS Next Day Air®, and UPS Next Day Air Saver®. (Note: UPS Express Critical™ Service is not available for firearms).


I expect Steve is right about other carriers too... :cheers2:


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My understanding is all handguns have to be declared prior to ship which stems from ATF regulation. Any serial numbered receiver also counts as a firearm.

Have never shipped firearms with FedEx but have been to UPS lots of times. UPS only allows shipment of handguns from depot locations. None of the UPS storefront locations or affiliates are allowed to accept firearms for shipment.

The overnight requirement stems from UPS policy, not ATF regulation. My understanding is the policy stems from a history of firearm thefts by UPS employees while the guns were in transit. Apparently the company feels that there is a lower likelihood of this happening if handguns are only in transit for a short time. It's a stupefying policy as long guns can ship via regular service.

Gets expensive quickly as even next day saver rates can easily run $70-$80 or more just for shipment charges. Insurance is on top of that.

I've only ever shipped handguns to licensed gunsmiths for repair or maintenance which is explicitly allowed by the GCA and ATF regulations. In my experience, the UPS depot personnel always want to see a copy of the recipient's FFL. The gunsmiths I've worked with have always emailed an electronic copy once we reach an agreement for services.

Some depot personnel are savvy to ATF regulations, others are not. It's a real crap shoot depending on who's standing behind the counter when you walk in.

Might be cheaper and a lot less hassle to just declare a firearm in checked baggage at the airport. I've never been through that process so can't offer any advice there.

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One other thing to consider. In my past experience at the UPS Service Depot in Tumwater, the counter staff always ask to confirm that the handgun is unloaded and also have explained that ammunition can not be mailed in the same box. Something to keep in mind since then you are looking at shipping two packages.

My personal thought is I would declare your handgun at the airport and ship via checked baggage. At least there you'll be working with airline personnel and Homeland Security personnel well versed in the regulations and who deal with concealed carriers on a daily basis.

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One other thing to consider. In my past experience at the UPS Service Depot in Tumwater, the counter staff always ask to confirm that the handgun is unloaded and also have explained that ammunition can not be mailed in the same box. Something to keep in mind since then you are looking at shipping two packages.

My personal thought is I would declare your handgun at the airport and ship via checked baggage. At least there you'll be working with airline personnel and Homeland Security personnel well versed in the regulations and who deal with concealed carriers on a daily basis.


Don't bet on it...the same idiots that work at UPS and USPS also populate the TSA ranks. Typically the TSA rep will take you to secure area with your handgun case, call in the airport cop, and have you open and show the gun is unloaded. They slip a label inside and have you lock it and keep the key. Then you are on your way. It can be fun watching airport police try and rack the slide on a 1911 with the safety on... :bigsmile:

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GeekWithGuns wrote:
One other thing to consider. In my past experience at the UPS Service Depot in Tumwater, the counter staff always ask to confirm that the handgun is unloaded and also have explained that ammunition can not be mailed in the same box. Something to keep in mind since then you are looking at shipping two packages.

My personal thought is I would declare your handgun at the airport and ship via checked baggage. At least there you'll be working with airline personnel and Homeland Security personnel well versed in the regulations and who deal with concealed carriers on a daily basis.


Don't bet on it...the same idiots that work at UPS and USPS also populate the TSA ranks. Typically the TSA rep will take you to secure area with your handgun case, call in the airport cop, and have you open and show the gun is unloaded. They slip a label inside and have you lock it and keep the key. Then you are on your way. It can be fun watching airport police try and rack the slide on a 1911 with the safety on... :bigsmile:


Interesting. I've flown several times and they have never asked me to open the locked container that the gun is in. They swab it for some reason, have you sign something saying it's unloaded and send you on your way. Usually takes 2 minutes. But in some of the smaller airports, I've had to sit and wait while they find the officer who is in charge of this process.


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Yes, perhaps the secret procedure has changed- my experience occurred in 2013. No doubt the Threat Level went from tangerine orange to pink magenta and caused a change in process.

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3584ELK wrote:
Yes, perhaps the secret procedure has changed- my experience occurred in 2013. No doubt the Threat Level went from tangerine orange to pink magenta and caused a change in process.


I prefer my threat level at blue steel.

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Well, that joke went way overhead...

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