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 H.R. 367 -- Hearing Protection Act -- Suppressors Off NFA 
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kf7mjf wrote:
*starts threading barrel on Trapdoor replica*


Why not take it further? Suppressed black powder cannon :bigsmile:

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Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:14 pm
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Cool. So by next year, here in WA, I can have an OTC can for my ten shot AR with a CA-style fixed stock, bullet button, and secret access code to fire that I need to request from my local sheriff in order to use that day. Real fight's here, not in DC.

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kf7mjf wrote:
*starts threading barrel on Trapdoor replica*


Why not take it further? Suppressed black powder cannon :bigsmile:


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I belive this would drive down the cost of cans.

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mash man wrote:
I belive this would drive down the cost of cans.

Yea but I'm still gunna be fucking broke... I'll have a designate can for each gun... ok well maybe not the mosin... I only have the one. But the rest of them will

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mash man wrote:
I belive this would drive down the cost of cans.


In the long term, yes.

In the short term, no. The initial demand will be insane and the market will be pretty seriously disrupted for at least the first two years.


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mash man wrote:
I belive this would drive down the cost of cans.


In the long term, yes.

In the short term, no. The initial demand will be insane and the market will be pretty seriously disrupted for at least the first two years.


Maybe, It's way easier to source can parts than AR BCG materials or starting to produce a .22lr production line. Parts could probably even be imported, I bet the shortage would last 6 months tops.


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The driving force behind the HPA is the American Suppressor Association with support from the NRA. The bill in the federal House of Representatives is sponsored by Rep. Jeff Duncan (Repub - SC-03) and Rep. John Carter (Repub TX-31).
http://americansuppressorassociation.com/blog/

The ASA is also working on other federal legislative priorities including legalizing suppressor exports (Suppressor Export Act) to foreign countries as part of a general push to support the domestic suppressor industry. They are also instrumental in the push to expand the number of states working on both legalizing suppressor ownership and also hunting with suppressors. They've been heavily involved with recent suppressor legalization successes in Iowa and Minnesota last year as well as the current push for legalization in Illinois and Massachusetts.

There is a 10% discount for memberships purchased until Inauguration Day. Use code HPA2017 at checkout to save 10% on a membership from now until Inauguration Day.

Just signed up for a one year membership earlier this week to help support passage of this bill.

Glad that we can actually discuss prospects for passage of pro-gun legislation at the federal level for the first time in eight years :bigsmile:
Now if we can only strip the 'sporting purposes' clause from the 1968 GCA and repeal the Hughes Amendment to the 1986 FOPA.

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dreadi wrote:
kf7mjf wrote:
*starts threading barrel on Trapdoor replica*



I see a booming business in the future....I need to get setup.



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The driving force behind the HPA is the American Suppressor Association with support from the NRA. The bill in the federal House of Representatives is sponsored by Rep. Jeff Duncan (Repub - SC-03) and Rep. John Carter (Repub TX-31).
http://americansuppressorassociation.com/blog/

The ASA is also working on other federal legislative priorities including legalizing suppressor exports (Suppressor Export Act) to foreign countries as part of a general push to support the domestic suppressor industry. They are also instrumental in the push to expand the number of states working on both legalizing suppressor ownership and also hunting with suppressors. They've been heavily involved with recent suppressor legalization successes in Iowa and Minnesota last year as well as the current push for legalization in Illinois and Massachusetts.

There is a 10% discount for memberships purchased until Inauguration Day. Use code HPA2017 at checkout to save 10% on a membership from now until Inauguration Day.

Just signed up for a one year membership earlier this week to help support passage of this bill.

Glad that we can actually discuss prospects for passage of pro-gun legislation at the federal level for the first time in eight years :bigsmile:
Now if we can only strip the 'sporting purposes' clause from the 1968 GCA and repeal the Hughes Amendment to the 1986 FOPA.

Great info! Thank you!

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Benja455 wrote:
mash man wrote:
I belive this would drive down the cost of cans.


In the long term, yes.

In the short term, no. The initial demand will be insane and the market will be pretty seriously disrupted for at least the first two years.


Maybe, It's way easier to source can parts than AR BCG materials or starting to produce a .22lr production line. Parts could probably even be imported, I bet the shortage would last 6 months tops.



A good number of parts to make a very satisfactory suppressor are available in your local auto parts stores. Under the NFA, assembling them into a suppressor is illegal.

Within weeks there will be relatively inexpensive suppressors available. From there it will just be a matter of quality and performance.

Take away the bureaucracy and a mfr's costs go way down. They can push them out the door as fast as the lathe operator can finish parts and the welder finish them.

I'm encouraged. Expect all my barrels to get threaded if this passes.

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Hiram Maxim's silencer was really just a different patent on his small gasoline engine muffler.

Still have 2-3 EU countries where you can buy a suppressor in a hardware store out of a bin for about €50.
Wears out, just pitch it and buy another one.

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Take away the bureaucracy and a mfr's costs go way down. They can push them out the door as fast as the lathe operator can finish parts and the welder finish them.

Unfortunately, passage of the HPA would not take away the bureaucracy. It would merely reduce silencers from Title II to Title I status. There's still a huge bureaucracy in place for Title I firearms. But I'll take that over the status quo any day!


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And then if it's being treated like a longarm, then one should be able to make one at home with no fuss or bother for personal use. To me that is the most immediate exciting prospect of the whole thing. I'll roll my own and wait for the commercial market to stabilize a bit.

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