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Author:  Pablo [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:49 am ]
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PMB wrote:
Pablo wrote:
The screen is AWESOME.

1/30" MESH is all you need. Hat is completely off to Steve. This idea is WAY better than I thought. Works for media and pins. I am washing my new oily media right now. $14.71 delivered and they gave me a gold mining pan. :thumbsup2: :thumbsup2: :thumbsup2: :thumbsup2: :thumbsup2:


Can you describe how tough / durable they seem to be?
How is the mesh "welded" into the plastic?


It's out in the shop right now but for the $14, they seem to be well made. Rugged enough. Not sure of the plastic type - but sturdy and fit perfect to the first ring on the sieve into a 5 gallon bucket. The screen is captured - you can see it here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/360482926395

I tell you though, I am not really liking the Southern Shine cut media. ROYAL PITA compared to pins and it does not seem to be as magnetic. Perhaps better SS alloy...........hmm...messy!
Author:  MadPick [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:16 am ]
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Here are a few photos of the screen

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Screen strength was one of my big concerns, but it's pretty tough. Once I pour the contents of the tumbler (five pounds of media plus brass) into it and rinse it out, I pick up the screen by the edges and I don't worry about the bottom falling out. I do put a support hand under the center of it when I carry the whole mess out to the garage, but I don't think I really need to.
Author:  Pablo [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:12 am ]
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lamrith wrote:
CON - Media is cumbersome to work with compared to std pin SS media.
This media is so fine and light that the molecular cohesion of water will make it stick to things.

Being so fine also makes it difficult to drain off water after tumbling and after rinsing. If you are not super careful some ends up down the drain. This was in the sink when I tried to drain to quickly.


Hello. Plus as noted the SS is not the same alloy or has not been worked as much as the pins. It is attracted to a magnet, but not not strongly so. I will reserve it for some nasty old brass, but everyday usage will be the pins.
Author:  MadPick [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:23 am ]
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Yeah, I still have my brand-new Southern Shine media in the package . . . based on what I've heard from others, I haven't had the heart to stop using the pins to give it a try.

Maybe I'll use it if I find a caliber that's "just right" and causes the pins to stick in the cases. Otherwise, I'll probably just stick with pins.
Author:  PMB [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:32 am ]
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Thank you Pablo and MadPick.
MadPick wrote:
Screen strength was one of my big concerns, but it's pretty tough.

It -seems- like it would have to be tough if it is being used by prospectors and assayers, but some products don't live up to real world work so had to ask.
MadPick wrote:
Once I pour the contents of the tumbler (five pounds of media plus brass)

What is your total weight? I hesitate to say how many pounds my full tumbler weighs.
Just checked... From the manual "Total weight of the drum should not exceed 30 pounds."
I've hit that number a few times.
The batch I did last night tared at 17.5 pounds of brass.
Author:  MadPick [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:52 am ]
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PMB wrote:
What is your total weight?


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As for the contents of the tumbler, I don't know . . . but I suspect it's lighter than yours.
Author:  Selador [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:40 pm ]
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MadPick wrote:
Screen strength was one of my big concerns, but it's pretty tough. Once I pour the contents of the tumbler (five pounds of media plus brass) into it and rinse it out, I pick up the screen by the edges and I don't worry about the bottom falling out. I do put a support hand under the center of it when I carry the whole mess out to the garage, but I don't think I really need to.

Probably a practice that will make it last a lot longer.

It may carry the weight right now, but given time, it will tend to crack and break where those 'supports' across the bottom, meet the sides. And where they meet each other in the middle.
Author:  MadPick [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:37 pm ]
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MadPick wrote:
SixPointEight wrote:
I've done about that many and had probably a couple hundred pins stick in cases, necks or pockets. Not a lot, but it's still some. I just worry one will stick, I won't notice, and I shoot the thing!


Is there a particular caliber that causes your pins to stick? Or all of them?

What size pins do you use?

I've tumbled a lot of calibers, and I've never had a stuck pin. Sometime soon here I'll be doing some 6.5 Carcano and 6.5 Jap, and the 6.5 calibers might have the best chance of a stuck 0.255" pin. We'll see.


And the jury has returned a verdict....

I tumbled a couple hundred rounds of 6.5 Jap . . . and one had a pin stuck in it.

Then I did a couple hundred rounds of 6.5 Carcano:

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:cussing:

I have a set of bigger pins; maybe I'll use those for my next batch of 6.5 Whatever.
Author:  PMB [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:27 pm ]
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I think that looks real nice. Has a nice symmetry. Keep up the good work.
Author:  MadPick [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:42 pm ]
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PMB wrote:
I think that looks real nice. Has a nice symmetry. Keep up the good work.


Thanks, man. I appreciate the experienced reloading advice! :thumbsup2: :ROFLMAO:
Author:  PMB [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:28 pm ]
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MadPick wrote:
PMB wrote:
I think that looks real nice. Has a nice symmetry. Keep up the good work.


Thanks, man. I appreciate the experienced reloading advice! :thumbsup2: :ROFLMAO:

No problem man, I don't mind helping a newbie.

Another freebie: to get that little bit more velocity that many folks aim for, wrap your bullet in gaffer's tape and run a swab of lard down the barrel. The gaffer's tape increases your pressure with no need for more of that expensive powder and the lard makes it easier for that bullet to squirt out like a watermelon seed at a picnic.
Also as the lard burns behind the bullet it acts like a jet afterburner. :thumbsup2:


No charge for you bud.
Author:  Pablo [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:09 am ]
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Once case where the chip media would have been better
Author:  MadPick [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:50 am ]
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Pablo wrote:
Once case where the chip media would have been better


Yeah. Well, at least it wouldn't have stuck. :bigsmile:

By the way, my check for stuck pins was deliberately done AFTER the brass came out of the media separator, so obviously all that rockin' and rollin' wasn't enough to dislodge the pins.
Author:  PMB [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:34 am ]
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MadPick wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Once case where the chip media would have been better

Yeah. Well, at least it wouldn't have stuck. :bigsmile:
By the way, my check for stuck pins was deliberately done AFTER the brass came out of the media separator, so obviously all that rockin' and rollin' wasn't enough to dislodge the pins.

Do you count your turns on the media separator?
My method was - a Rite-in-the-rain notepad and waterproof pen at hand, count the turns in sets of 15 revolutions. After each batch of 15 turns I remove all the pins on the bottom of the separator and make a mark on the waterproof pad... Narrow it down to 5 revolutions per set near the end in later batches.
Each caliber has its own row.
The bottle neck cases require quite a bit higher turns than the straight wall. No surprise.
The easiest lesson to learn was to NEVER mix cases. The mixed batches took sometimes 5x as many revolutions as the single caliber batches.
Author:  MadPick [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:49 am ]
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PMB wrote:
Do you count your turns on the media separator?


I used to . . . now I just wing it. It's easier with stainless steel media than corncob, since you can really hear and feel the difference as the media falls away.

PMB wrote:
The easiest lesson to learn was to NEVER mix cases.


Yeah, that's a given. Doesn't matter if you're doing dry or wet tumbling, always sort first....
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