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Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:13 pm
Hey guys, anyone here have accurate load data for a 45 ACP 230 grain fmj and a 4.25" Commander barrel? Any information is much appreciated. Thanks in advance
Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:17 pm
Same as a 5" Barrel.
What is your projectile? What is your powder?
I've had good luck with this site. Start a little low and work your way up.
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/I load Bear Creek moly coated 200 grain RNHB with 5.6-5.9 grains of Win 231 or HP38 with an OAL of around about 1.25". These will fire in any 1911 no matter the barrel length. That's been my recipe for years. I also really like Accurate #2 and Unique for 45acp.
Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:37 pm
I use 5.0 grains of reddot
Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:39 pm
5.5gr titegroup with 230gr bullet seated around 1.275. I use it on multiple 1911's including commander barrels and my XD's.
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:45 pm
5.3 of #2 it has never let me down. Works in my 1911's, sig, H&K and everything else I have tried like the kriss
Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:18 am
mash man wrote:5.3 of #2 it has never let me down. Works in my 1911's, sig, H&K and everything else I have tried like the kriss
Accurate #2 is the holy grail of powders for pistol applications. Went a few years recently with none on the shelves. I'm really happy that it is making a comeback. It will power 9mm and 38 special excellently also.
Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:36 am
OhShoot! wrote:mash man wrote:5.3 of #2 it has never let me down. Works in my 1911's, sig, H&K and everything else I have tried like the kriss
Accurate #2 is the holy grail of powders for pistol applications. Went a few years recently with none on the shelves. I'm really happy that it is making a comeback. It will power 9mm and 38 special excellently also.
I know right. When you find a 5 lbs jug you see a beam of light shining down lol.
Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:40 am
I use 5.2 gr of vv320. 181 power factor with plated bullets 230gr.
I use slower powders like true blue for xtp hollowpoints
Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:47 am
4.8 of 700X
Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:20 pm
Thanks for the information. Current powders on hand are, Titegroup, AA452, HP-38, Longshot, 800X, Clays, Universal and Green dot. So far I'm getting accurate loads using Longshot on the minimum starting load @ 6.3 grains The velocity is 848 fps but that's for a 5" barrel. I wonder approximately what my fps is coming out of 4.25" barrel?
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:45 am
phorsfall wrote:Thanks for the information. Current powders on hand are, Titegroup, AA452, HP-38, Longshot, 800X, Clays, Universal and Green dot. So far I'm getting accurate loads using Longshot on the minimum starting load @ 6.3 grains The velocity is 848 fps but that's for a 5" barrel. I wonder approximately what my fps is coming out of 4.25" barrel?
Be careful with titegroup. Great powder, but goes overly explosive rapidly when overfilled. Wes always warned me about Titegroup.
Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:52 am
Here is load data/chrono data from a Colt Commander in 4.25 barrel using CFE Pistol Powder and a cast 225 bullet, powder coated.
These run about 75 fps slower than Winchester 45ACP white box and that's fine for plinking ammo.
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:08 pm
phorsfall wrote:Thanks for the information. Current powders on hand are, Titegroup, AA452, HP-38, Longshot, 800X, Clays, Universal and Green dot. So far I'm getting accurate loads using Longshot on the minimum starting load @ 6.3 grains The velocity is 848 fps but that's for a 5" barrel. I wonder approximately what my fps is coming out of 4.25" barrel?
Could be slower, could be faster; it really just depends on your barrel and the specific load. Any guesses about the velocity difference are just guesses.
Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:10 am
Just a quick chrono'ing test on a 2" barrel vs 3" barrel resulted in the 2" barrel velocity at a slower velocity, by about 75 fps slower, than 3". My guess is that a 4 1/4 inch barrel will be slighlty slowere than a 5".
I will run a test this weekend with a Commander and full length barrel 1911.
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:43 pm
I have also seen 4-1/4" 1911 barrels be faster than other 5" barrels. You really can't make a worthwhile guess on this one, gotta measure it to know.
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