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UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence
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 Site Supporter  Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 Posts: 1432 Location: Ahead of the pack  
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 UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violenceGun owners plan to attend Town Hall Seattle meet on urban violence
Puget Sound area gun rights activists have circled Monday, June 18 on their calendars and are planning to attend a meeting at Seattle’s Town Hall to address the city’s sharp spike in urban violence. http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-own ... n-violence Last edited by Dave Workman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:11 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:53 pm |
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Site Supporter  Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 5531 Location: East of the Emerald City.
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Re: Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence I fart in their general direction. That is a closed door done deal meeting with a bit of " public input " tossed on as an afterthought. Like cheap cologne, it doesn't cover the stink underneath.
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| Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:16 pm |
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Site Moderator  Real Name: The other Steve Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 Posts: 2361 Location: Renton 
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Re: Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence I dont see this meeting having a good outcome......for anyone. I have said it before, Seattle residents need to deal with this one, not an angry mod of "outsiders". Plus, RENCORP also nailed down another point. Its all cooked anyways. Labeling it a town hall meeting is just a feel good measure.
_________________ NRA/SOTM RSO K&E ARMS wrote: Note to self, Beat other steve |
| Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:42 pm |
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Site Supporter Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 Posts: 1432 Location: Ahead of the pack
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Re: Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Despite murder spike, Seattle still very safe city
As gun prohibitionists and gun rights activists prepare to square off – despite official insistence to the contrary – at a Town Hall Seattle meeting scheduled Monday, June 18 to discuss the city’s sudden spike in urban violence, a look at statistics affirms the Jet City is still a very safe place to live. http://www.examiner.com/article/despite ... -safe-city Last edited by Dave Workman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:22 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
| Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:10 am |
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Site Admin  Real Name: Dan Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 15547 Location: Olympia, WA 
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence I agree. I had a really well thought out and researched post on WCF's facebook page showing data that Seattle was quite safe, especially when compared to anti-gun cities like NY and Chicago, and anti-gun states like Cali. Too bad they removed it then banned me from posting....
_________________ Dan aka massivedesign MadPick wrote: It's interesting that our president trusts North Korea with nukes, but doesn't trust me with a 30-round magazine. |
| Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:27 am |
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Site Supporter Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 Posts: 1432 Location: Ahead of the pack
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Massivedesign wrote: I agree. I had a really well thought out and researched post on WCF's facebook page showing data that Seattle was quite safe, especially when compared to anti-gun cities like NY and Chicago, and anti-gun states like Cali. Too bad they removed it then banned me from posting.... That is the difference between Ceasefire and Workman. Workman believes in the 1st Amendment and I would have left your post, no matter how disagreeable, for people to view. Those guys don't want the truth. They don't want fact. They want to take away your guns. |
| Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:28 am |
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Site Supporter  Real Name: Lamrith Joined: Mon May 7, 2012 Posts: 1024 Location: Tacoma
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Massivedesign wrote: I agree. I had a really well thought out and researched post on WCF's facebook page showing data that Seattle was quite safe, especially when compared to anti-gun cities like NY and Chicago, and anti-gun states like Cali. Too bad they removed it then banned me from posting.... Too bad you do not have a copy of your post or better yet a screenshot of it on the FB site. Would be a nice thing to bring with you to the meeting and hand out to attendees so they can see the real truth about the data AND about the people leading this crusade. It won't convince everyone, but I bet some people would be swayed after hearing the truth and facts are being supressed for an agenda.. |
| Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:59 am |
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Site Admin Real Name: Dan Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 15547 Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence The data is easily reproducible. It was mainly off of their VPC post and their harvard Stat post. I used the VPC data against them, since the data is loaded. The harvard one was easier. Look up the FBI Crime stats in NY, Chicago vs. Seattle. Find the population of that year and make a ratio.
_________________ Dan aka massivedesign MadPick wrote: It's interesting that our president trusts North Korea with nukes, but doesn't trust me with a 30-round magazine. |
| Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:18 am |
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Site Supporter Real Name: Lamrith Joined: Mon May 7, 2012 Posts: 1024 Location: Tacoma
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Massivedesign wrote: The data is easily reproducible. It was mainly off of their VPC post and their harvard Stat post. I used the VPC data against them, since the data is loaded. The harvard one was easier. Look up the FBI Crime stats in NY, Chicago vs. Seattle. Find the population of that year and make a ratio. It's not just the data, it's the fact that they have supressed the data for a personal adgend that you want to bring to light. It is one thing to spin things your way, it is what statistics is all about, it is another thing when different information is brought to light and you delete or hide it from the public.  |
| Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:27 am |
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 Joined: Thu Apr 5, 2012 Posts: 121 Location: Here, there and everywhere, but WA is my home.
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence So how did the "meeting" go?
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| Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:13 pm |
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Site Supporter Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 Posts: 1432 Location: Ahead of the pack
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Eastside Frog wrote: So how did the "meeting" go? About like this: Was community meeting camouflage for Seattle’s anti-gun agenda? Cut through the rhetoric about the need for more education and mental health funding, neighborhood communications and youth violence intervention, and what came through at Monday evening’s Town Hall Seattle forum on violence was the city’s desire to erode state preemption and establish its own gun laws. http://www.examiner.com/article/was-com ... b_articles |
| Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:12 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 5, 2012 Posts: 121 Location: Here, there and everywhere, but WA is my home.
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Cool, thanks for the good write-up!
We'll really have to watch this one. Denver jumped around CO's pre-emption law a few years ago playing the "home-rule" card; and now CO's a dangerous patchwork of local gun laws. In one city, you can bring your gun into an alcohol-serving restaurant, but your knife could land you in jail! In another city, you can't carry your gun into a grocery store if they sell beer. It's madness. State pre-emption is crucial; it was sad to see it die after a few nice years in CO, hate to see anything harm it in WA. |
| Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:16 pm |
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Site Admin  Real Name: Steve Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 8928 Location: Renton, WA
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Eastside Frog wrote: We'll really have to watch this one. Denver jumped around CO's pre-emption law a few years ago playing the "home-rule" card; and now CO's a dangerous patchwork of local gun laws. In one city, you can bring your gun into an alcohol-serving restaurant, but your knife could land you in jail! In another city, you can't carry your gun into a grocery store if they sell beer. It's madness. State pre-emption is crucial; it was sad to see it die after a few nice years in CO, hate to see anything harm it in WA. Good post. Thanks for illustrating the potential reality to us Washingtonians . . . that sounds like a freaking nightmare.  _________________ Steve Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:48 pm |
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Site Supporter  Real Name: Now we are all Steve Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2011 Posts: 429 Location: Kent
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Re: UPDATED! Town Hall Seattle meeting on violence Eastside Frog wrote: Cool, thanks for the good write-up! We'll really have to watch this one. Denver jumped around CO's pre-emption law a few years ago playing the "home-rule" card; and now CO's a dangerous patchwork of local gun laws. In one city, you can bring your gun into an alcohol-serving restaurant, but your knife could land you in jail! In another city, you can't carry your gun into a grocery store if they sell beer. It's madness. State pre-emption is crucial; it was sad to see it die after a few nice years in CO, hate to see anything harm it in WA. This is EXACTLY what we are facing here in Washington. I expect serious efforts against Preemption and a frontal attack on Open Carry. _________________ "Excellence is an art won by training and habit. We are what we repeatedly do." -- Aristotle Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless. |
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