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Wet Tumbling - Video of my process
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GeekWithGuns
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Location: Round Rock, TX Joined: Thu Mar 5, 2015 Posts: 3899
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Thanks Steve. Great video and picked up a couple ideas for my wet tumbling procedure.
I've been using relatively more Lemishine and less Ultra Shine. Will change those proportions in the next batch. Also I use a couple drops of Dawn dishwashing detergent in the mix.
Not quite as meticulous about draining the tumbler bin. I only drain it about 1/2 to 2/3 before the whole ball of wax goes in the tumbler to avoid spilling pins and brass.
Really like the colander idea will try that. In the old house in Lacey had a big garage sink that I could rinse the whole Frankford Arsenal tumbler bin directly but now I will have to use the kitchen sink here in Round Rock. A colander will come in very handy here.
For drying I just lay the brass out on an old towel on the garage floor then either air dry or use compressed air to blast it dry. Depends on air temp.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:28 am |
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lamrith
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Just placed an order for some of this, we will see how it goes.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:49 am |
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Pablo
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lamrith wrote: Just placed an order for some of this, we will see how it goes. Did you call to order? Facebook!!!!!!
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:13 am |
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chasehooks
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At first I liked you covered media separator but think I prefer my Frankfort Arsenal one. It sits half submerged in a bucket of water so most of the pins sink to the bottom of the bucket. I do have to go around that bucket when I'm done to pick up the pins that flew out, but better then going down the sink. Maybe filling the bottom of yours with water would be the best solution. Plus when I'll all done rinsing the brass I dump it onto a micro fiber towel, wrap it up and shake it around for a minute before putting it in the dehydrator. Helps speed up the drying and less spots.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:46 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52188
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I don't see any benefit to having water in my media separator . . . ? Then I would just need to separate the pins from the water after I was done.
But yes, another option would be simply dump the whole tumblerful into the media separate, dirty water and all, and then pour off the water.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:00 pm |
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SixPointEight
Location: Frederickson, WA Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 Posts: 194
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MadPick wrote: I don't see any benefit to having water in my media separator . . . ? Then I would just need to separate the pins from the water after I was done.
But yes, another option would be simply dump the whole tumblerful into the media separate, dirty water and all, and then pour off the water. As I mentioned, when there's a film of water, the surface tension adheres the pins to the brass. When submerged under the surface, the pins fall right out. I find that having water in the separator gives much better results. Separating pins from water is a complete non issue, I use a fine mesh strainer. Brass from pins is a little more involved
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:56 pm |
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MadPick
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It's funny how we all have such different experiences. I don't have any issues at all with separating pins from brass; all of the pins come out in the media separator.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:59 pm |
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beckdw
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Location: Tri -Cities Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 Posts: 2798
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Seems like everyone does something different! After reading all of the many processes that other folks do, I tried my hand at this awesome brass cleaning process. The first couple times were...disappointing. The brass came out clean enough, but not polished and shiny like I was promised by all the hype. And then, it was like a light shone. Lemi-shine! Once I started using it, everything changed. This is my process. I fill half my FA tumbler with brass. I add the 5lbs of pins that came with the tumbler, 1/2 tsp of lemi-shine, and a good squirt of Palmolive original concentrate. I fill the tumbler with water and run it for 1hr. I then install the strainer and drain the nasty water, refill the tumbler, drain, refill, until the water is clean (usually 2-3x). I then add another 1/2tsp of lemi-shine and 1 TABLEspoon of Armor-all wax-and-wash. Fill the tumbler with water again, and run for another 1hr. Lastly I rinse a couple more times, turn in the rcbs media separator, and dry on a cookie sheet in the oven for 30-60 min at 170° (although I plan on getting a food dehydrator or the FA brass drier). Comes out clean AND shiny, inside and out to include primer pockets.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:06 pm |
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Selador
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MadPick wrote: It's funny how we all have such different experiences. I don't have any issues at all with separating pins from brass; all of the pins come out in the media separator. I still say you should get a fine mesh screen for that sink drain for the day when you do drop washers, wingnuts, or pins down in there.
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:30 pm |
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usrifle
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I use the Franklin Armory wet tumbler with the supplied pins and the Franklin cleaning solution. Tumble 2 hours, pour off the nasty water and rinse.I really like the Franklin Armory Cleaning solution, it really does a good job. I tried Lemishine and some liquid detergents, the Franklin stuff is better. YMMV
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:39 pm |
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beckdw
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usrifle wrote: I use the Franklin Armory wet tumbler with the supplied pins and the Franklin cleaning solution. Tumble 2 hours, pour off the nasty water and rinse.I really like the Franklin Armory Cleaning solution, it really does a good job. I tried Lemishine and some liquid detergents, the Franklin stuff is better. YMMV The FA brass cleaning solution sample worked well. I might try it again!
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:44 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52188
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That brass looks good, David. My only suggestion would be to get it down to a one-tumble process. To me, that means skip the initial Palmolive run and use a little more Armor All if you need to.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:55 am |
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Pablo
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I have never done the dump midstream either. In theory it should make the brass cleaner....but faster (maybe?)....and is definitely more hassle.
I guess I'm like Homme de Dieu le Gâteau here. I don't know what all the anxiety about rinsing and separating. I pour almost all the bong water out of the tumbler, fill with fresh, dump and repeat a couple times then in the separator, close lid spin and into food dryer. No spots.
Wax wash - brass stays shiny for at least 2 years. Still watching!
What NOT to do: Don't use anything like Simple Green or stronger. Messes with the rubber liner and puts the black rubber on your brass.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:11 am |
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chasehooks
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Location: Tumwater, WA Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 Posts: 688
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Main reason I clean mine twice: Universal de-primer, clean and dry. Now my resizing die and hands stay clean through the rest of the steps. After re-sizing and what ever else I'm going to do (depending on if it's rifle, pistol, trim, etc..) I run it through again. Comes out much nicer than the first time and removes anything it picked up during re-sizing, etc. I'm still amazed at how dirty this water is: running "clean" brass. Now it's ready to load!
Does running it twice improve: accuracy, reliability, or anything else? Maybe not, but I do think it feeds/ejects smoother. Either way I feel much better when I pull it out at the range then the stuff I'd cleaned with an ultra sonic that looked like it had been rolling around on the floorboards of my old truck. Even the first batches where I only ran it once, the shine didn't last.
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Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:52 pm |
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SixPointEight
Location: Frederickson, WA Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 Posts: 194
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Pablo wrote: I have never done the dump midstream either. In theory it should make the brass cleaner....but faster (maybe?)....and is definitely more hassle.
I guess I'm like Homme de Dieu le Gâteau here. I don't know what all the anxiety about rinsing and separating. I pour almost all the bong water out of the tumbler, fill with fresh, dump and repeat a couple times then in the separator, close lid spin and into food dryer. No spots.
Wax wash - brass stays shiny for at least 2 years. Still watching!
What NOT to do: Don't use anything like Simple Green or stronger. Messes with the rubber liner and puts the black rubber on your brass. These hung out in my garage for 4 years using dawn and Lemishine
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