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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21391
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Three years after the 2A rally where some folks in a controversial move took their openly carried long arms into the Senate's public gallery, Lt. Governor Cyrus Habib has moved to ban all fire arms from the gallery. The house will have to pass their own ban if they wish to follow suit. http://komonews.com/news/local/state-se ... ic-gallery
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:10 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38324
Real Name: Dan
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Fuck that, and fuck him. I know the banning of OC in the gallery was a bipartisan movement. Can Habib, unilaterally bypass preemption?
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:04 pm |
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sreyemj
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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I can't imagine why we can't have nice things. Some people don't understand the difference between things you can do, and things you should do.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:27 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8411
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I blame it on the ANTIFA guy with the AK.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:31 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52162
Real Name: Steve
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Massivedesign wrote: Fuck that, and fuck him. Exactly. And notice that the ban is only in the public gallery . . . not in the area where the senators themselves are. This really IS starting to smell more and more like California.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:31 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17849
Real Name: Chuck
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Well, did LG Habib even see this display of guns? Just another case of blind justice.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:47 pm |
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victoriassecret
Location: WA Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 Posts: 52
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It's pretty messed up that such a decision is left up to him, and him only. Even with the loss of that 1 GOP seat, I bet the senate would have voted no on this move. He also said CC is not consistent with the "decorum" of the chamber. How so if it's not visible? Plus he's blind, why the hell does he care?
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:27 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17849
Real Name: Chuck
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Serious note.. Violation of State Preemption?
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:22 pm |
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sreyemj
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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golddigger14s wrote: Serious note.. Violation of State Preemption? It's a secured building. Carrying firearms in a secured building is a privilege, not a right.
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:38 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38324
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sreyemj wrote: golddigger14s wrote: Serious note.. Violation of State Preemption? It's a secured building. Carrying firearms in a secured building is a privilege, not a right. Wut? Can you please show me where in .300 it specifies this? http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:15 am |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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I am fine with it as long as they provide lock boxes and security screening like a courthouse.
Otherwise, they are just turning it into a soft target.
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:18 am |
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Alpine
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Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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ANZAC wrote: I am fine with it as long as they provide lock boxes and security screening like a courthouse.
Otherwise, they are just turning it into a soft target. They already said they won't be doing either of those.
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:10 pm |
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sreyemj
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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Massivedesign wrote: sreyemj wrote: golddigger14s wrote: Serious note.. Violation of State Preemption? It's a secured building. Carrying firearms in a secured building is a privilege, not a right. Wut? Can you please show me where in .300 it specifies this? http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300Do you think this is something that needs to be addressed by state law? There are a laundry list of buildings that don't allow you to stupidly carry your unloaded AR around (including the White House), and I don't see how a rule banning this type of activity to be in violation of the 2nd amendment.
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:15 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38324
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sreyemj wrote: Do you think this is something that needs to be addressed by state law? There are a laundry list of buildings that don't allow you to stupidly carry your unloaded AR around (including the White House), and I don't see how a rule banning this type of activity to be in violation of the 2nd amendment.
Yes, I do think it needs to be addressed by State Law. Wa State Law is written to where only the prohibited / illegal is codified, if it's not codified, it's legal. I am not talking Federal Gov. here, I am talking about WA STATE, which has a preemption clause, a fairly strong 2A section of the State Constitution, and a pretty solid foundation to how prohibitions are done/ not done. This also isn't about carrying your AR. This bans ALL firearms, open, concealed, handgun, rifle... Doesn't matter. I take my kids to the Capital Building, but now I can't show them the Chamber because I may be carrying a concealed firearm? A Chamber that is open to the public, with the intention of always being open so "We the People" can participate in the process.
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:27 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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sreyemj wrote: Do you think this is something that needs to be addressed by state law? There are a laundry list of buildings that don't allow you to stupidly carry your unloaded AR around (including the White House), and I don't see how a rule banning this type of activity to be in violation of the 2nd amendment.
There are specific federal laws governing people and areas under secret service protection. There's no specific state law that would allow this AFAIK, except maybe the general trespass law, which is a bit of a stretch.
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:25 pm |
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