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old11bravo
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Location: Everett Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 Posts: 3421
Real Name: Ron
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I bought a gun once. I did not use my SSN. Ever!!
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:50 pm |
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Chrisb9381
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Location: Monroe Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 Posts: 1285
Real Name: Chris
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FWIW I've bought several from them and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I never put my SSN on the form for just the reason you mention, but I'm more concerned that they have paper lying around with my SSN than someone remembering it.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:53 pm |
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snozzberries
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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dreadi wrote: Did you tell the person to stop messing with your gun? Did you tell the person to stop reading your information out loud? Nope! I just passive-aggressively bitch about it online later. :) It's the Seattle way right? Chrisb9381 wrote: FWIW I've bought several from them and wouldn't hesitate to do so again. I never put my SSN on the form for just the reason you mention, but I'm more concerned that they have paper lying around with my SSN than someone remembering it. I'm glad you had a positive experience. Maybe I should leave my SSN off the forms next time and see if I still achieve an approval. never_to_much wrote: It's also procedure to make sure a gun is clear before handing it over normal step is remove source of possible ammo clear gun. Not knowing that he tried and then had to cycle the gun with mag to make sure it was clear. I see no fault on the employee of this facility. Just normal operations. I can agree with this safety process. But you don't need to cycle it 6 times, just pull it back once. It appeared to be an attitude of "I get to play with and fondle all the guns that come into this store, even though they aren't mine." It was a lack of respect for me and my property. I wonder if they open their siblings presents, take them out of the box, and play with them before the recipient does. When I'm not familiar with something, I ask questions and read the manual.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:02 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178
Real Name: Ace Winky
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That's hilarious. I have bought guns from them in the past. Frankly I agree, they fondle stuff. A lot. I always was finding some dent, scratch or ding on new items.
I pretty much always go see Randy now. He has a courteous reach around policy.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:33 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044
Real Name: Steve
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More importantly where is the pic of the seecamp? That's high on my list of 32's I want.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:09 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8358
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snozzberries wrote: dreadi wrote: Did you tell the person to stop messing with your gun? Did you tell the person to stop reading your information out loud? Nope! I just passive-aggressively bitch about it online later. :) It's the Seattle way . You got that right.
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Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:10 pm |
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snozzberries
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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I've received confirmation from the seller that the box was shipped factory sealed. Is an FFL required by law to break the factory seal on a brand-new firearm?
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:18 am |
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BadKarma
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Location: Duvall Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 8661
Real Name: Jaime
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Never had an issue with them and I have bought 5 guns from them. I guess I never payed attention when they called it in. I can see the reason to open the box and clear it but nothing like your talking about.
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:25 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307
Real Name: Dan
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snozzberries wrote: I've received confirmation from the seller that the box was shipped factory sealed. Is an FFL required by law to break the factory seal on a brand-new firearm? Yes. They need to get the serial # off of the firearm to enter into their A&D books.
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:12 am |
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snozzberries
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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Massivedesign wrote: snozzberries wrote: I've received confirmation from the seller that the box was shipped factory sealed. Is an FFL required by law to break the factory seal on a brand-new firearm? Yes. They need to get the serial # off of the firearm to enter into their A&D books. Even if it's on the outside of the box? Doesn't the manufacturer need to open the box to do the same? Doesn't the seller need to open the box to do the same?
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:16 am |
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Chrisb9381
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Location: Monroe Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 Posts: 1285
Real Name: Chris
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snozzberries wrote: Massivedesign wrote: snozzberries wrote: I've received confirmation from the seller that the box was shipped factory sealed. Is an FFL required by law to break the factory seal on a brand-new firearm? Yes. They need to get the serial # off of the firearm to enter into their A&D books. Even if it's on the outside of the box? Doesn't the manufacturer need to open the box to do the same? Doesn't the seller need to open the box to do the same? I wouldn't expect an FFL dealer doing a transfer to trust the box label to match the firearm inside. Especially for something they didn't order directly from the factory or distributor.
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:32 am |
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DocNugent
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Location: South King County, WA Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 5846
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never_to_much wrote: . . . did anyone have a pen and paper writing your information down or do you think that they can store that information from just briefly hearing it. . . . Don't all cell phones have a voice recorder capability these days? Mine's pretty easy to start without removing it from my pocket, and the mic picks up nearby voices through shirt material.
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:05 am |
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sreyemj
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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snozzberries wrote: I've received confirmation from the seller that the box was shipped factory sealed. Is an FFL required by law to break the factory seal on a brand-new firearm? If your FFL is worth anything they get the serial number off the firearm, not the box. They also check the chamber. I wouldn't be worried about either of those issues. Also, I researched Seecamps extensively before the recent influx of pocket pistols (and decided to go a different direction) and never heard about cycling the slide without a magazine so it's probably not common knowledge.
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:55 am |
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snozzberries
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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sreyemj wrote: snozzberries wrote: I've received confirmation from the seller that the box was shipped factory sealed. Is an FFL required by law to break the factory seal on a brand-new firearm? If your FFL is worth anything they get the serial number off the firearm, not the box. They also check the chamber. I wouldn't be worried about either of those issues. Also, I researched Seecamps extensively before the recent influx of pocket pistols (and decided to go a different direction) and never heard about cycling the slide without a magazine so it's probably not common knowledge. So is it even possible to buy a NIB firearm and keep it NIB? If something isn't common knowledge, that's what owners manuals are for. When you see a firearm that belongs to somebody else, do you just pick it up and start messing with it? Or do you ask them about it and learn? I've purchased 7 firearms from 7 different FFL's(I know, not many), and this was the only experience I was disappointed in. Just came here to share my thoughts and see if my expectations were unreasonable. Glad to hear others haven't had the same.
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Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:53 pm |
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Chrisb9381
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Location: Monroe Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 Posts: 1285
Real Name: Chris
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IMO NIB =/= sealed box. NIB means never fired, carried, loaded, etc. I'm sure you could find some safe queens made before you were born that are still NIB.
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