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Well it’s official, WDFD has claimed that the winter steelhead run on the Chehalis river is going to suck, yet again.

That being said I am officially posting “opening seats” for Riffe lake this winter. There are many many healthy fish in this lake and they are HUNGRY for Caveman’s secret bait recipes...
Yes I do have a fully enclosed top with a heater for those Chilly Willie fishers.

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:36 am
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I did this with Jim last year. It was an excellent time even though we got skunked. May have to find another opening myself to come.


Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:43 pm
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Yukonjon wrote:
I did this with Jim last year. It was an excellent time even though we got skunked. May have to find another opening myself to come.


I was hoping you saw this, and I can promise you that
this time you will not get skunked... :bigsmile:

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:47 pm
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I haven't followed the runs this year as I've been moving or unpacking. Whats the pilchuck river look like? I've got 920' if it looks viable for fellow wagunners

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das_napeth wrote:
I haven't followed the runs this year as I've been moving or unpacking. Whats the pilchuck river look like? I've got 920' if it looks viable for fellow wagunners


I haven’t fished up there in 25 years, I’d have to Google it now... lol
To tell you the truth, all the runs, salmon and steelhead have been very low to nonexistent for years. That’s one of the major reasons why the watersheds down here get pounded so bad is when WDFW closes the rivers and sound fisheries up north.

That would be a great spot for a Waguns get together though... :wagwoot:

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I am a chilly willy kind of guy with fishing licenses! :bow:

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Caveman Jim wrote:
Well it’s official, WDFD has claimed that the winter steelhead run on the Chehalis river is going to suck, yet again.

That being said I am officially posting “opening seats” for Riffe lake this winter. There are many many healthy fish in this lake and they are HUNGRY for Caveman’s secret bait recipes...
Yes I do have a fully enclosed top with a heater for those Chilly Willie fishers.


With the river running the way it has been the last two years I’m not suprised

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Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:10 am
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And now WDFW is going to restrict us boat anglers!!! I am going to lobby for a lakes only license, I'm damn tired of paying these inept wannabe fish managers for mismanagement of our resources. :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/state-announce ... nservation

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Personally I think they should do a full on moratorium on any and all fishing both sport and commercial for a couple years and focus on more habitat restoration efforts.

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Personally I think they should do a full on moratorium on any and all fishing both sport and commercial for a couple years and focus on more habitat restoration efforts.


Restored spawning grounds don't work if your poisoning the fish up stream/in the sound/coast. Or letting an abnormal amount of sea lions have an unlimited buffet.


Mother nature has ASS FUCKED this planet for millions of years.

She has created dams of mud, timber, debris,,,

She has diverted streams and rivers with geological events,,,

She has changed the PH of water bodies with volcanoes and magma.

She has ruined spanning beds with millions of yards of silt from lahars,,,

She has blown ash for hundreds of miles and choked out waterways,,,,

AND every time the salmon has adapted, overcome, and flourished. Massive habitat changed have destroyed the salmons home MANY times and they have never been endangered.

BUT mother nature never flushed its poison fill sewage treatment plants into the puget sound and surrounding coastlines.
The salmon will NEVER adapt to unacceptable water quality like we have now.

So for all you folks that live in town on SEWER and like to fish, just remember that every time you flush,,, that comes out of your limit.


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Old Growth wrote:
RadioSquatch wrote:
Personally I think they should do a full on moratorium on any and all fishing both sport and commercial for a couple years and focus on more habitat restoration efforts.


Restored spawning grounds don't work if your poisoning the fish up stream/in the sound/coast. Or letting an abnormal amount of sea lions have an unlimited buffet.


Mother nature has ASS FUCKED this planet for millions of years.

She has created dams of mud, timber, debris,,,

She has diverted streams and rivers with geological events,,,

She has changed the PH of water bodies with volcanoes and magma.

She has ruined spanning beds with millions of yards of silt from lahars,,,

She has blown ash for hundreds of miles and choked out waterways,,,,

AND every time the salmon has adapted, overcome, and flourished. Massive habitat changed have destroyed the salmons home MANY times and they have never been endangered.

BUT mother nature never flushed its poison fill sewage treatment plants into the puget sound and surrounding coastlines.
The salmon will NEVER adapt to unacceptable water quality like we have now.

So for all you folks that live in town on SEWER and like to fish, just remember that every time you flush,,, that comes out of your limit.

Not disagreeing with you about the poisons and toxins being washed into the waters.theres tons of aspects for restoration such as invasive species control and other things like your talk of toxin management, My work deals directly with salmon, habitat and restoration efforts. I work for the salmon and the environment and everyone that fishes.ill tell you what else will kill runs, a proposed big “flood retention facility “ placed right over prime spawning beds...

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There has been so many things that have played a part in the destruction of the salmonoids in the last 100 years that can bring any harvestable numbers back. The Feds and Washington politicians all have had their hand in the destruction of the habitat vital for fish runs to survive by creating the dams and business practices.

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Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:38 pm
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Now back to our regularly scheduled program. :bigsmile:

I ventured out to my favorite lake today with my son and SIL. As always it was just a great day to be together and fish (catch).
We managed to have fun, BS a lot and limit out with 15 FAT landlocked silvers in less than 3 hours. A good day to say he least!!!
It was 30* this morning at the ramp but thank Gawd it wasn’t frozen and the water level was very low... :ROFLMAO:
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The water level is not supposed to ever come back up. They dont plan to fix/update the dam. At least that is the word on the street!

Looks good!


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Old Growth wrote:
The water level is not supposed to ever come back up. They dont plan to fix/update the dam. At least that is the word on the street!

Looks good!


I don’t mind the water level being low because less water there’s less places for the fish to hide. LOL

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