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 Knots in Polyester Rigging Slings 
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I have a dilemma... A friend came by while I was in Montana last week and borrowed 6 slings to help direct a tree that he was falling too close to his workshop.
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Warning #8 is addressing a "too little and too late" situation.
I do enjoy warnings like #9 every time I see them.

There should be an eleventh warning : DO NOT MAKE KNOTS OF ANY KIND IN SLING. Maybe they think that everyone already knows that. Putting a knot in a sling results in Warning #1 coming into play. They always weaken a sling.

Had I been at home, I would have offered him the shackles that should have gone with them for that job, but he didn't know, my lovely Dread Princess Morgoth didn't know, and he did this :

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He was putting some considerable force on the knots with a tractor, and they're fairly hard. Not rock hard, as I've seen worse, but they're not going to be easy.

They'll never be 100%, but I am trying to figure out a way to disassemble this mess and be able to re-use the slings... Of course they're damaged, but they'll still be way above a 1:1 safety factor and I do not use them for overhead work of any kind.

Anyone have any tricks or tips for this task?


Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:06 am
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Soak them in Water and then use two Awls fished through the Knots to loosen them up.

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Time to unlimber your marlinspike and fid. Flex the knots until you see movement, then exploit any gains using the fid and spike against each other. Rinse and repeat.

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I was going to suggest you soak them in vegetable oil. To make the knots slide apart easier.

But on second thought, I don't know. It's possible that would make the fibers swell, and make the knots even harder to get apart?

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delliottg wrote:
Time to unlimber your marlinspike and fid. Flex the knots until you see movement, then exploit any gains using the fid and spike against each other. Rinse and repeat.


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Drive a nail through the layers. That will make some room to loosen them.

Make the neighbor by you some tufflex round slings?

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yep gonna have to wiggle it loose...use hammer and lightly tap it. any poking it with a tool is gonna really weaken it

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Sorry, dinosaur here. I use wire rope cable and chains.

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Traut wrote:
Sorry, dinosaur here. I use wire rope cable and chains.


Those leave marks

Nylon, not as much

Just ask Fjordforder. He's the resident expert on bondage now

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RocketScott wrote:
Traut wrote:
Sorry, dinosaur here. I use wire rope cable and chains.


Those leave marks

Nylon, not as much

Just ask Fjordforder. He's the resident expert on bondage now on himself...




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RocketScott wrote:
Traut wrote:
Sorry, dinosaur here. I use wire rope cable and chains.


Those leave marks

Nylon, not as much

Just ask Fjordforder. He's the resident expert on bondage now


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I got them with Dave's suggestion... Every one of them! They look great except for some wrinkles that should pop right out if I suspend a ton for a few minutes.
It surprised me. The few times that I've had knots before (inadvertent or one of my sons pulling a 4x4 out in the mud and sticks ( :cussing: Bring a shackle you knuckleheads! ) I've simply thrown them away.

I wondered about "lubing" with water or an oil... I don't think nylon/poly fibers swell the way old sisal and other natural fibers do... But something got planted in my noggin decades ago that makes me adverse to adding a liquid to any fiber like that.
Thanks for the advice and suggestions gentlemen. :cheers2:


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Who returns stuff in that kinda shape after borrowing it?

I may borrow it in pinch, and I may screw it up accidently, but new ones would be on the way same day.

The only 2 questions would be:

What address do you want the new ones sent to, and, do you mind if I keep the ones I goofed up.


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It's a good point NWG... I should have mentioned that the friend is an old friend and top notch borrower just like you.
He wanted to bring me new ones or hand me a wad of cash, but I told him no need. Flat slings are not that spendy and are a consumable item. My desire to save them had more to do with that these were still kind of new and pretty, not the typical condition that I toss a sling in the trash.

I bet WaGuns could fill a long thread with stories of the bad borrowers...
A previous coworker borrowed our towdolly.
He brought it back on a flatbed with all the studs broken flush on one wheel. "I don't know what happened! Just driving along on flat smooth ground and the next thing I know the tire and wheel were gone!" :ROFLMAO:


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