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Chrisb9381
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I recently purchased the 'Lansky Puck' axe and tool sharpener, but haven't used it yet. The directions say to use honing oil, which I do not have. My questions are as follows:
1: Does it have to be honing oil or would any oil (gun, motor, etc.) suffice?
2: What if I don't use oil or use the "wrong" oil, what will happen or fail in the sharpening process?
3: Does the stone hold onto the oil and it would only need applied occasionally or will it need to be applied each time and possibly taken to the field with me should I need to sharpen while away from the garage?
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RENCORP
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Motor oil works just fine for honing an edge using a stone. All it does is float away the metal particles being removed by the stone rather than the metal clogging up the surface of the stone. Re-application for every use is necessary - small squeeze bottle with folding sealer spout cap is the best carrier and application tool for oil.
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Fishin Musician
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When I was a kid I was taught that any light oil (think 3in1) would work, and if none was available to spit on the stone.
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Chrisb9381
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Thanks for all of the responses.
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delliottg
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Even water will work (hence spitting on the stone), but I keep used motor oil around for sharpening. As Rene said, all you're trying to do is float the swarf (metal filings) off of the stone. I've also used 3 in 1 and keep a can handy with my stones. When I was a sawyer on a fire crew, we never used stones on our gear, we kept a mill bastard file in our packs to sharpen all our tools (axes, Pulaskis, R7 shovels, blood hooks, Mcleods, etc.).
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Chrisb9381
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delliottg wrote: Even water will work (hence spitting on the stone), but I keep used motor oil around for sharpening. As Rene said, all you're trying to do is float the swarf (metal filings) off of the stone. I've also used 3 in 1 and keep a can handy with my stones. When I was a sawyer on a fire crew, we never used stones on our gear, we kept a mill bastard file in our packs to sharpen all our tools (axes, Pulaskis, R7 shovels, blood hooks, Mcleods, etc.). I've got one of those as well, maybe thats a better field carry option.
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quantsuff
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My old timer said they used kerosene.
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GuyFromV
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I read about the mousepad, fine grit sandpaper and leather strap method for axe heads and I really am amazed how easy and effective it is.
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quantsuff
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GuyFromV wrote: I read about the mousepad, fine grit sandpaper and leather strap method for axe heads and I really am amazed how easy and effective it is. linky pls?
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Just in joy
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hell I bought a small belt sander and a bunch of different grit sand paper & leather strop works like a champ
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delliottg
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Just in joy wrote: hell I bought a small belt sander and a bunch of different grit sand paper & leather strop works like a champ Kinda tough to carry that in your pack along with the generator... _________________David Unique Treen
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I use a dremel with fine grinding wheel on mine. But I'm a rough bastard.
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GuyFromV
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quantsuff wrote: GuyFromV wrote: I read about the mousepad, fine grit sandpaper and leather strap method for axe heads and I really am amazed how easy and effective it is. linky pls? I think just a search for "axe sharpening mousepad" will give a bunch of examples. Basically using a pad taped or adhered so it's immobile and flat then covering it with the sandpaper so you can move the head on the sandpaper with the give underneath caused by the mousepad and (I forgot this part) using a certain combo of coins under the ax head so that the angle remains constant is the gist of it. Then finish up the edge with the leather like ye olde barbers did to their straightrazors, also the leather can be sprinkled with a chromium oxide(I think ?) fine powder to make it much more efficient. I didn't do the leather/CrO stuff at all yet but the mousepad/sandpaper with coins underneath the head is awesome.
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GuyFromV wrote: quantsuff wrote: GuyFromV wrote: I read about the mousepad, fine grit sandpaper and leather strap method for axe heads and I really am amazed how easy and effective it is. linky pls? I think just a search for "axe sharpening mousepad" will give a bunch of examples. Basically using a pad taped or adhered so it's immobile and flat then covering it with the sandpaper so you can move the head on the sandpaper with the give underneath caused by the mousepad and (I forgot this part) using a certain combo of coins under the ax head so that the angle remains constant is the gist of it. Then finish up the edge with the leather like ye olde barbers did to their straightrazors, also the leather can be sprinkled with a chromium oxide(I think ?) fine powder to make it much more efficient. I didn't do the leather/CrO stuff at all yet but the mousepad/sandpaper with coins underneath the head is awesome. This is also how you hand sharpen a knife with a convex edge. It's more rounded and many consider it stronger than the straight edge produced by a stone, or sandpaper on a hard surface. There are tons of videos on Youtube. Also check out bladeforums.com
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