cast_iron_plumber wrote:
I've installed a lot of these at work (I'm a plumber). My boss really likes the Streamlabs one, because it's brass and has a full port shutoff valve, but I think it's more expensive than the Moenflo. I believe it also accepts a 9V battery for backup when power is out.
These devices are getting more affordable/widespread/popular. I always recommend that people just turn off their main and water heater if they are going to be away for a significant amount of time, but even 20 minutes of water can create thousands of dollars in damage.
Told them if they are leaving for more than 2 days to do that as well, but I know they are forgetful (and I have forgotten when rushing out of the house).
I ended up installing the Moen integrated with 6 wet sensors, with UPS backups on the wifi/router and Moen. It looks like they have fixed the impeller issues in the last 2 years, but time will tell and it was the only one that would arrive in time for me to install during my visit.
I also ordered a Bulldog (
https://www.econetshop.com/bulldog.html) with a wired wet sensor for backup. Bothers can install that fairly easily and I go back and have a redundant set of zigbee remote sensors installed as well.
Whole system is just under a grand (parts only including basic plumbing wetwork).
I also added cutoff lines with drains on the spigot sides , replaced the water bibs with threaded Woodford model 19s and replaced some pipe that a plumber did because it had dead space (that I cut down to 3" instead of 3') and left water sit near the spigots instead of at a slight angle to drain.
Long term goal is to get them a good Home Assistant setup.