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Author: | TechnoWeenie [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:26 am ] |
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On my to do list....
Among many others... EDIT: For the water storage, I could also use slimmer 20 gallon tanks, and use more of them, and have the bed hinged on the overhang part so it's not in the way during the day.... Right now, I have a couple storage bins of clothes... Rubbermaid... A twin mattress, and a wood bed frame I made from 4x4s and 3/4 underlayment. And lots of blankets. Haha |
Author: | Traut [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:40 am ] |
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To get around the rusted countersunk screw problem, can you maybe use something like a small, say 1/2" holesaw and just encircle the screw head? Once you pull the panel off, you'll have a bunch of 1 /2" disks left, but the would be easy to get a hold of and unscrew or knock off. Im not explaining it well, but it's sort of like drilling out spotwelds. |
Author: | TechnoWeenie [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:00 am ] |
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Traut wrote: To get around the rusted countersunk screw problem, can you maybe use something like a small, say 1/2" and just encircle the screw head? Once you pull the panel off, you'll have a bunch of 1 /2" disks left, but the would be easy to get a hold of and unscrew or knock off. Im not explaining it well, but it's sort of like drilling out spotwelds. Holy shit. This is what I get when I overthink shit. Mother of God, thank you.. I completely did not think about using a small hole saw.. And that would be so much quicker and easier than using a reciprocating tool.. I could probably measure the size of the screw head and get a hole saw bit a hair bigger. Seriously. Thank you.. I feel like an idiot for not thinking about that. |
Author: | KeystoneCowboy [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:33 am ] |
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I like the water barrel idea. Great way to save some money. Make damn sure they are secure though. I know you're looking to save some money on this by diy and whatnot. My opinion I would scrape and save and just buy an available compostable toilet. Lots of options available. |
Author: | deadshot2 [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:15 pm ] |
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: I like the water barrel idea. Great way to save some money. Make damn sure they are secure though. I know you're looking to save some money on this by diy and whatnot. My opinion I would scrape and save and just buy an available compostable toilet. Lots of options available. Rather than using water barrels I'd consider rectangular tanks like those used in RV's. Less wasted apace and a rectangle the length and width of a barrel would hold almost twice as much water. Either more water in same space or less space used for the same amount. Multiple tanks are a good idea. Filling and venting can be done through a manifold for each function but using individual usage outlets lets one know when they're almost out of water. When you get ready to put in batteries, better have saved your money. Most efficient for weight/power stored are the LiFePo batteries. Half the weight of Lead Acid, take a charge faster, and you can use ALL of the battery capacity rather than just 50% like with flooded lead/acid. Save LOTS of money as a 100 Ah LiFePo battery runs around $900 now. RV owners all over the nation are changing over to them for longer run times on their TV's, lighting, etc. 3 hour charge times versus 6-12 hr charging with SLA's. |
Author: | TechnoWeenie [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:32 pm ] |
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: I like the water barrel idea. Great way to save some money. Make damn sure they are secure though. I know you're looking to save some money on this by diy and whatnot. My opinion I would scrape and save and just buy an available compostable toilet. Lots of options available. I think I'm gonna go with a larger number of 20ish gallon tanks, as they're only ~14" instead of over 2'... That will minimize lost space.. The compostable toilets I've seen are in the grand range.... I'm thinking, peat moss or sawdust, a waterproof bag, and a home depot bucket, with a 24hr a day small vent van to outside, in a small enclosure..... Less than $100 instead of over a grand... Something like this, maybe? |
Author: | deadshot2 [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:37 pm ] |
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Same reason I'm going with GC2s.... And they're rated for 80% DoD.. Not just 50%... Yes, some claim 80% DoD on the Golf Cart Batteries but doing that cuts the number of potential cycles by a huge factor. Also, if you draw down ANY lead acid battery and leave it that way for any length of time, it's number of lifetime cycles is drastically reduced. Sulfation occurs with every discharge and if it remains discharged for any time at all, the sulfated lead turns into hard crystals. Yes, you can discharge a GC-2 battery to 80% DoD but the question is "How many times". The answer is "Far fewer times than if you stopped and recharged at 50%. BTW, don't forget that it takes 2 GC-2's to make ONE 12V battery. |
Author: | TechnoWeenie [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:47 pm ] |
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deadshot2 wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Same reason I'm going with GC2s.... And they're rated for 80% DoD.. Not just 50%... Yes, some claim 80% DoD on the Golf Cart Batteries but doing that cuts the number of potential cycles by a huge factor. Also, if you draw down ANY lead acid battery and leave it that way for any length of time, it's number of lifetime cycles is drastically reduced. Sulfation occurs with every discharge and if it remains discharged for any time at all, the sulfated lead turns into hard crystals. Yes, you can discharge a GC-2 battery to 80% DoD but the question is "How many times". The answer is "Far fewer times than if you stopped and recharged at 50%. BTW, don't forget that it takes 2 GC-2's to make ONE 12V battery. Did you forget who you're talking to? Interstate GC2s are rated for 800 cycles @ 50% DoD, but only 500 cycles @ 80% DoD 215Ah IIRC.... .... The idea is to keep them topped up as much as possible.... Trojan T-125s are a hair more than Interstate GC2s, but are rated for 1000 cycles, 80% DoD, 240Ah... I appreciate you trying to look out for me.... |
Author: | Selador [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:11 pm ] |
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Jagerbomber35 wrote: I like the water barrel idea. Great way to save some money. Make damn sure they are secure though. I know you're looking to save some money on this by diy and whatnot. My opinion I would scrape and save and just buy an available compostable toilet. Lots of options available. I think I'm gonna go with a larger number of 20ish gallon tanks, as they're only ~14" instead of over 2'... That will minimize lost space.. The compostable toilets I've seen are in the grand range.... I'm thinking, peat moss or sawdust, a waterproof bag, and a home depot bucket, with a 24hr a day small vent van to outside, in a small enclosure..... Less than $100 instead of over a grand... Something like this, maybe? Please include the raw link when you post a youtube video. The bracketed links are not working for me any more. That is a great idea for the toilet! However, before you go to the trouble of building that box, you can still do it without the box. The cheapest toilet seat at Lowes, fits a 5 gallon bucket perfectly. There are 4 bumpers on the bottom of the seat. I pried off the front two. Then, when ready to use it, I just sat the seat down on the bucket, and pulled it forward. The two back bumpers stop it when they come up against the outside of the rim of the bucket. That lets you know the seat is centered on the bucket. That is safe to sit on. And will support 300 pounds, easily. *With a good bucket. I'd steer clear of anything that seems kind of thin. Just don't go shifting around on it. It is stable enough for some shifting. But don't treat it like it's bolted down. |
Author: | mp1977 [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:27 am ] |
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TechnoWeenie wrote: deadshot2 wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Same reason I'm going with GC2s.... And they're rated for 80% DoD.. Not just 50%... Yes, some claim 80% DoD on the Golf Cart Batteries but doing that cuts the number of potential cycles by a huge factor. Also, if you draw down ANY lead acid battery and leave it that way for any length of time, it's number of lifetime cycles is drastically reduced. Sulfation occurs with every discharge and if it remains discharged for any time at all, the sulfated lead turns into hard crystals. Yes, you can discharge a GC-2 battery to 80% DoD but the question is "How many times". The answer is "Far fewer times than if you stopped and recharged at 50%. BTW, don't forget that it takes 2 GC-2's to make ONE 12V battery. Did you forget who you're talking to? Interstate GC2s are rated for 800 cycles @ 50% DoD, but only 500 cycles @ 80% DoD 215Ah IIRC.... .... The idea is to keep them topped up as much as possible.... Trojan T-125s are a hair more than Interstate GC2s, but are rated for 1000 cycles, 80% DoD, 240Ah... I appreciate you trying to look out for me.... We’ve had good luck with Costco’s GC2 batteries. 4 of them wired in series and parallel lasted 7 years and would run a microwave, hair drier, electric percolator, furnace, etc. without complaint. 8th year, they started drawing down too quickly and were replaced with the same. 400 watts of mono solar in series and parallel via a MPPT controller keeps them charged. 70% is the lowest that they have ever been drawn down to. Usually 85% is typical, then back to 100% by noon, later if it’s raining. Good batteries for $90 each. |
Author: | golddigger14s [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:07 pm ] |
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I went with the GC2's for my system. Two Duracells $93 (+core charge) ea at Sam's Club. 100 watt Renogy folding panel. |
Author: | Pablo [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:10 pm ] |
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TW - how does someone, say, make contact with you? I have at least one thing for your project. Not charity, just the guys, you know we always have extra tools and stuff. Maybe shipping address? |
Author: | Powderman [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:55 pm ] |
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That's an old military shop van, isn't it? Those are sturdy and well built. They do have ONE problem, though--- I don't know if you've done any upgrading with the electricals, but the problem I always ran into was that they had a tendency to pass stray voltage...meaning, if you grabbed the rails to get into the van, you'd do the herky-jerky for a second or so. Make sure that thing is well grounded. |
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