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Well gents, looks like the baddies have figured it out.

Who wants to bet there was at least one perp on the inside?

https://dentondaily.com/atf-looks-for-400-guns-stolen-from-ups-facility-in-tennessee/

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MEMPHIS, Tenn. — About 400 guns have been stolen from a United Parcel Service facility in Memphis, Tennessee, and authorities are concerned about the theft’s potential effect on public safety.

Two people driving a U-Haul truck stole the weapons from a UPS facility in Memphis on Sunday, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said Monday. The agency is asking for the public’s help in the case: It offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction.

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Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:41 pm
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Always believed that UPS does not deliver firearms...

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surevaliance wrote:
Always believed that UPS does not deliver firearms...



I'm pretty sure they do for commercial sellers at least. This wasn't Joe sending a gun to Bob. This has to be a shipment from a manufacturer to a distributor or a distributor to a store. That's a lot of guns, even for a retail store. Yikes. Guaranteed a man on the inside helped.

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surevaliance wrote:
Always believed that UPS does not deliver firearms...


I’ve had a lot of guns shipped to me through ups. Had a m1 garand earlier this year shipped from a dude in another state to me through ups.


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Sadly, this will make it more expensive and less likely to be able to ship guns thru common carriers.

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Fold me a tinfoil hat - I suspect another Fast and furious.

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Probably headed for Chicago now . . . sound familiar?

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surevaliance wrote:
Fold me a tinfoil hat - I suspect another Fast and furious.


Or one more law that we need to pass to “keep guns off the streets”.

And there’s no way you get 400 guns out of a mail handling facility without prior knowledge or someone inside. Unless they literally have a room or area where they separate them from the rest of the packages.


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surevaliance wrote:
Fold me a tinfoil hat - I suspect another Fast and furious.


Or one more law that we need to pass to “keep guns off the streets”.

And there’s no way you get 400 guns out of a mail handling facility without prior knowledge or someone inside. Unless they literally have a room or area where they separate them from the rest of the packages.


^^^ THIS

I was always told that guns had to be shipped NDA, so that they would not be sitting idle somewhere and stolen.

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I was always told that guns had to be shipped NDA, so that they would not be sitting idle somewhere and stolen.


You always ship fine watches overnight and never on a Friday.

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I dont always ship household goods or machine parts; but when I do I ship UPS.

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For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

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This happened in October 2018 in Memphis? ... Is this the same story?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ab ... ee-n915791

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This happened in October 2018 in Memphis? ... Is this the same story?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ab ... ee-n915791
Original link takes me to main page of denton.... Hmmmmmmmmm

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Well fuck.

Looks like I was conned.

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"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...

For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

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1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.

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SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.

The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.

You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.

“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.”
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MadPick wrote:
Bob Ferguson is a total piece of shit. Of this, I am convinced.

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I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.

WARNING: I DEBATE IGNORAMUSES FOR MY OWN ENTERTAINMENT


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