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I visited my folks down in Nevada this summer, and my dad gave me a couple of firearms that have been in the family for quite awhile. Here's a quick description of each one:

1. Colt 1851 Navy Percussion Revolver: Later model, based on the serial number it was manufactured 1866-1867. All serial numbers are matching and all markings look to be original and legitimate. The gun is in rough shape and needs some restoration, but I've always heard that restoring an antique firearm runs the risk of ruining the value. With that said, my plan for this little jewel is to have it appraised, then probably display it in a nice case.

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Top Barrel Flat: ADDRESS COL. SAML COLT NEW-YORK U.S. AMERICA
Left Front Side of Frame: Colts Patent
Left Side Trigger Guard: .36 Cal
Cylinder: Colts Patent No XXXX (last 4 of serial number)
Barrel, Frame, and Trigger Guard: Serial Number
Butt Strap Stamping: Serial Number

There are more markings that aren't visible without some field stripping, but I'll wait on those.

2. J. Stevens Arms & Tool Company Single Shot .22 Long Rifle: Also known as the "Old Stevens Favorite", but still researching. I did find out my grandfather traded a set of spurs for this when he was 12, in 1938. It does need a new extractor, every now and then my grandfather and dad had to use a pocket knife to pull the spent casing out. Best guess for manufacturing date, based on barrel markings is 1894-1920.

Markings
Top Right Barrel: J. Stevens A & T Co., Chicopee Falls Mass USA PAT. APR 17 94
Top Left Barrel: 22 Long Rifle
Bottom Stock Support: Serial Number

3. J. Stevens Arms Company Single Shot Break-Open 410 Shotgun: Best guess for manufacturing date, based on receiver markings is 1920-1940s. Still researching.

Markings
Top Left Barrel: Selected Forged Steel
Left Side Receiver: Stevens, The Fully Guaranteed Single Gun
Right Side Receiver: Circled 21, J. Stevens Arms Company, Chicopee Falls Mass USA, Made in USA

Here's a pic of all three together. Top to bottom: 410, .22LR, 1851 Colt
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The 410 and .22 are going to be my winter restoration projects. I'm still doing some research, primarily on the 410 because I can't find any markings that says what model it is, but there's a local gunsmith I use as my FFL transfer that I'll take it to. My goal is to tastefully display the 1851 Colt, and get both the 410 and .22 cleaned up and in working order so I can pass them on and keep them in the family.

The pictures don't show it all that well, but there is some pitting and surface rust on both the 410 and .22, so I see lots of filing, sanding, and buffing in my future. For the stocks, a buddy of mine has suggested boiling to soften and swell the wood. Then use liberal amounts of Teak Oil to help bring out the wood grain and seal it. I'm also going to use that same buddy of mine to blue both of them. He's got the setup and equipment to do already, not to mention his hot bluing is spot on. The bluing he did on his Winchester model 94 looks like it was done at the factory. He's working on perfecting the technique for rust bluing. If he can, I'll get these rust blued. If not, I'll go with the hot bluing. Winter in Southwest Washington isn't looking so bleak now.

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Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:41 pm
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Vince, those are just AWESOME!! thumbsup

I think it would be fantastic to get all three of them to a condition where they can be fired, so you can take them out occasionally and enjoy them. The revolver gets me especially excited . . . it would be so cool to be able to take that and put a few rounds through it, and FEEL the history!

You're a lucky guy. Thanks so much for taking the time to post that!

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Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:49 pm
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Don't do any "restoration" on them that affects the finish on the wood or metal.

You'll severely decrease the value as a "collector". ESPECIALLY with the Colt revolver.

The Stevens favorite is also a very collectable little rifle and yours appears to be pretty nice as is.

SERIOUSLY! Don't take any sandpaper or steel wool or do any kind of "clean up" on them till you establish a value. You'll regret it it if you do.

Clean the bores and actions but don't take them apart to do so. BE GENTLE!!!!!!

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Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:03 am
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Awesome pieces man! Good advice from Foothills too. I have a few 1800's hand me down revolvers too that are in similar shape. They are gun socked and stored away as-is, as received.. Well, except for the percussion revolver that I had to "un-load" the powder and wad from.


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MadPick wrote:
Vince, those are just AWESOME!! thumbsup

I think it would be fantastic to get all three of them to a condition where they can be fired, so you can take them out occasionally and enjoy them. The revolver gets me especially excited . . . it would be so cool to be able to take that and put a few rounds through it, and FEEL the history!

You're a lucky guy. Thanks so much for taking the time to post that!


I'm with Madpick if you need a very taleted smith I would recommend Clark county gunsmith ask for les they don't do chroming tho and he is very well versed on old firearms 360-694-7858 tell him the guy that makes jerky told you and he will treat you like a God . but bring some dog cookies and you make two new friends

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Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:23 pm
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sofa king wrote:
MadPick wrote:
Vince, those are just AWESOME!! thumbsup

I think it would be fantastic to get all three of them to a condition where they can be fired, so you can take them out occasionally and enjoy them. The revolver gets me especially excited . . . it would be so cool to be able to take that and put a few rounds through it, and FEEL the history!

You're a lucky guy. Thanks so much for taking the time to post that!


I'm with Madpick if you need a very taleted smith I would recommend Clark county gunsmith ask for les they don't do chroming tho and he is very well versed on old firearms 360-694-7858 tell him the guy that makes jerky told you and he will treat you like a God . but bring some dog cookies and you make two new friends



Yep, I already know Les and his son Charlie. That's who I use for my FFL transfers. Good people, and a somewhat friendly dog.

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vmkeith wrote:
. . . a somewhat friendly dog.


Hence the suggestion to bring treats, I'm guessing.... :P

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I have the same 22. It was my great grandmothers. She used it to keep the mice out of her grain shed and smoke house in Mississippi. It needs a new extractor also. There is a a few places online that make new ones for the old stevens break opens. There was a few different models so it depends. I will let you know what i find. They run about 22 dollars a piece. If i cant find the one I need I will have to make one. It is nice having a machinist back ground.

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I could be wrong, I believe the Stevens Favorite did not have an extractor

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