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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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I was more thinking if stuff like this, you'd rather buy Chinese, even if it was American made.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:15 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21151
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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ESG virtue signaling. Yes I keep an eye on that stuff, too. Fortunately there are alternatives to Patagonia. Unfortunately many outdoors products companies behave the same... Or, like REI, are predatory towards their own suppliers; they do Walmart-style buying... hog up a small (usually U.S.) manufacturer's production capacity to the extent that the manufacturer will forgo other potential customers. Meanwhile Walmart drags them through the mud with delayed payments, cash strapping the producer and ultimately dictates pricing and terms, or face ruination when Walmart threatens return of unsold inventory. REI buys up their business partners then immediately ships production overseas.
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11049
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Only a small percentage of Patagonia products are made in the US This is a great article that lays out their position: https://www.patagonia.com/stories/patagonia-clothing-made-where-how-why/story-18467.htmlQuote: We cannot make a claim to be a “Made in America” company; we have always sourced at least half our products outside the U.S. But our percentage of American-made products has decreased over time, as has the U.S. textile industry and the number of domestic high-quality sewing shops. Much of the U.S. apparel manufacturing landscape simply no longer exists. Seattle contractors Cascade, J&E, and Down Products are no longer in business. Pyke Manufacturing of Utah declared chapter 11 in 1994, and Tennessee Apparel, Everite of Pennsylvania, and Linda Apparel of San Francisco have long since shut their doors. It is very difficult for clothing companies to find factories in the U.S. that meet our standards; the textile industry is much smaller; the work has shifted overseas.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:33 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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Well. 100% American textiles there is https://originmaine.com/
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:43 pm |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11049
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So were you saying that Patagonia is a Chinese company? They're not
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:56 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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RocketScott wrote: So were you saying that Patagonia is a Chinese company? They're not When did I say that? Also that post was not really in relation other than saying there was a 100% American textiles company of people wanted jeans or shirts.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:00 pm |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11049
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bubblewhip wrote: RocketScott wrote: So were you saying that Patagonia is a Chinese company? They're not When did I say that? … You tell me!? You brought up Patagonia, which is neither US made nor Chinese bubblewhip wrote: I was more thinking if stuff like this, you'd rather buy Chinese, even if it was American made.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:09 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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RocketScott wrote: bubblewhip wrote: RocketScott wrote: So were you saying that Patagonia is a Chinese company? They're not When did I say that? … You tell me!? You brought up Patagonia, which is neither US made nor Chinese bubblewhip wrote: I was more thinking if stuff like this, you'd rather buy Chinese, even if it was American made. AFAIK some of Patagonia bags are berry compliant and made in the USA like their Black Hole Duffle bag. Not everything they make is USA made but some of them are USA made enough for berry compliance. But they have questionable politics so I was wondering where people would rather spend money on.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:13 pm |
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CQBgopher
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Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8266
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:52 pm |
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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
Real Name: Kyle
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Some Filson products.
Problem is a lot of textiles are made with American cotton, shipped to china to process, tben back to US to make clothing.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:00 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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Worth nothing not all channellock tools are made in USA.
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Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:59 pm |
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Old Growth
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I have a pair that are probably older than anyone on this board!
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Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:31 am |
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CQBgopher
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bubblewhip wrote: Worth nothing not all channellock tools are made in USA. Very true. I think the pliers are still 100% US though. It's getting hard to find a full product line made here, sadly.
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AR15L
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Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:21 am |
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bubblewhip
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