The magazine ban and 1240 both used that weird language about "unfair or deceptive" trade practice.
It's that language that authorised Fergy to send out these ridiculous "consumer investigative demands" requesting onerous numbers of documents with steep penalties for non compliance and without needing any court order.
He's using that power to harass and bankrupt firearms companies. Hopefully these lawsuits can be uplevelled into a challenge of the concept of calling sale of an ordinary good an "unfair or deceptive trade practice".
Yes, it is a deliberate end-around of local police and prosecutors.
Sun May 14, 2023 2:20 pm
Diamondback
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The magazine ban and 1240 both used that weird language about "unfair or deceptive" trade practice.
It's that language that authorised Fergy to send out these ridiculous "consumer investigative demands" requesting onerous numbers of documents with steep penalties for non compliance and without needing any court order.
He's using that power to harass and bankrupt firearms companies. Hopefully these lawsuits can be uplevelled into a challenge of the concept of calling sale of an ordinary good an "unfair or deceptive trade practice".
Yes, it is a deliberate end-around of local police and prosecutors.
Sounds like a Federal "Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law" suit, among other things...
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Sun May 14, 2023 2:23 pm
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If you are quiet, no one can hear you. Forums and Youtube comments aren't loud. Phrases "Shall not comply" and "unconstitutional" have done nothing. It takes physical and financial effort. At this point we have lost the Alamo.
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ANZAC
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This was an extremely low probability "hail Mary". SCOTUS is not "allowing" anything except the normal well established process to unfold.
Don't pin your hopes on low probability hail mary plays.
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Wed May 17, 2023 2:58 pm
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Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:47 pm
TechnoWeenie
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A judge has denied the motion for preliminary injunction in our lawsuit challenging Washington's "assault weapon ban," saying that the banned firearms "allow a shooter to fire as fast as they can pull the trigger, unlike previous guns."
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Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:44 am
Nitro_Guns
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What'd you expect from a Tacoma judge? Basically Seatthell Lite...
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Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:51 pm
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He wrote that the challenge is likely fail because we're misreading Bruen and Heller and that these guns aren't protected, and the law doesn't impact handguns.
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Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:06 pm
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Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:39 pm
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“Considering the exceptional dangerousness of these weapons, the public interest in their regulation by the State outweighs the Plaintiffs’ desire to purchase more assault weapons"
That judge hasn't been paying attention. Or, he just doesn't give a shit about the actual law. Or both.
“Considering the exceptional dangerousness of these weapons, the public interest in their regulation by the State outweighs the Plaintiffs’ desire to purchase more assault weapons"
That judge hasn't been paying attention. Or, he just doesn't give a shit about the actual law. Or both.
If these dangerous weapons were as dangerous as they say, then the police shouldn't have them either.
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