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 Laws traveling through CA with a gun (HELP!) 
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CA is a dang other country... have to drive through. The gun laws are confusing.

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https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/california/

Carrying a handgun concealed within a vehicle is prohibited without a license. A handgun carried in a glove compartment or under the seat of a vehicle is considered to be concealed. A handgun placed in a locked in a container in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment or while in a locked container carried directly to or from a vehicle is deemed not to be “concealed.” A locked container means a fully enclosed secure container locked by a key lock or similar locking device.

OK so if I have a legal gun (let's say a 5 shot revolver) and it is unloaded in a gun safe... that is fine while traveling.

BUT if you carry that from car to hotel suddenly that is concealed?

Jeez, does anyone have experience with traveling through CA with a gun? It is very vexing. Only interested in having a gun in case SHTF and have to get home. BUT not worth it unless all can be legal in the anti-constitution state shithole of CA.

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I solve this dilemma by never stepping foot in Commiefornia.
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Eh. I can't tell you what is legal. I can tell you what I did based on my interpretation of the law when I traveled there earlier this decade.

I brought a single stack (SIG P220) and kept it unloaded in a locked metal box while traveling. I carried it in said box up to the hotel where I proceeded to load it and keep it available. We stayed in some sketchy areas to save $$$. Reverse the process coming back to the vehicle. I never left it at any hotel even if it had a combo safe.

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Eh. I can't tell you what is legal. I can tell you what I did based on my interpretation of the law when I traveled there earlier this decade.

I brought a single stack (SIG P220) and kept it unloaded in a locked metal box while traveling. I carried it in said box up to the hotel where I proceeded to load it and keep it available. We stayed in some sketchy areas to save $$$. Reverse the process coming back to the vehicle. I never left it at any hotel even if it had a combo safe.


Sounds about all one can do and stay "some kind of legal". Thanks!
I am thinking revolver to avoid any magazine capacity issues.

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I solve this dilemma by never stepping foot in Commiefornia.
Never.


Totally with you... but to keep the beautiful woman in my life, we have to take a short trip there. She is worth it : )

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"or while in a locked container carried directly to or from a vehicle is deemed not to be “concealed.”

I think you're alright

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It is legal in all 48 states to transport a firearm 'through' the state, even the most anti-gun state. Supposedly. FOPA. Have it locked in a box in your trunk. But that is going 'through' the state. Not visiting friends, or doing a bunch of touristy stuff. Stop for gas, a bite to eat, for the night, but you need to be traveling through not loitering.

But California doesn't seem as bad as all that. Not like in NJ, MA, NY, MD, or DC. You'll be alright.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150101/guide-to-the-interstate-transportation


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It is legal in all 48 states to transport a firearm 'through' the state, even the most anti-gun state. Supposedly. FOPA. Have it locked in a box in your trunk. But that is going 'through' the state. Not visiting friends, or doing a bunch of touristy stuff. Stop for gas, a bite to eat, for the night, but you need to be traveling through not loitering.

But California doesn't seem as bad as all that. Not like in NJ, MA, NY, MD, or DC. You'll be alright.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150101/guide-to-the-interstate-transportation


Thanks so much for the info!

This makes it pretty clear (or clear enough from an authority/CA.

"HANDGUNS
Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment."

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So basically that means California has made you a defenseless person sans throwing a locked box at someone who pulls a weapon on you in a robbery.
Huh.

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sportsdad60 wrote:
So basically that means California has made you a defenseless person sans throwing a locked box at someone who pulls a weapon on you in a robbery.
Huh.


Wonder if there could be a market for "defensive handgun safes" ??? : )

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We have family in California plus a lot of friends from my days teaching skiing. Basically stop on an empty road near the border. Gun gets unloaded, all bullets out of magazines. Unloaded gun in a lockbox in the trunk with ammunition stored in a separate container, also in the trunk though need not be locked. I put the unloaded magazines in same container as the ammo.

The courtesy which I extend to law enforcement in Texas of letting them know that I'm a handgun license holder and carrying on my person NEVER gets extended in California when it comes to guns in the trunk. I only respond to questions directly asked of me. Volunteer nothing!!! Respond truthfully if asked directly though (which shouldn't be a problem if you're in compliance with the law).

Another option if you're a member of US Law Shield or a similar organization is to call their hotline to ask advice from one of their attorneys.

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