Quasi-related, but there are a lot of towns/municipalities in PA and NY that use police vehicles, registered to the county/city, that council members/mayors make rules that allow them to use them for whatever they want.... and the taxpayers foot the bill... some even use the radio to call in reports of speeders and whatnot... or run lights/siren to a meeting they're late for.
When I left it was just starting to hit mainstream media but had been an issue for a while... Looks like they started cracking down on it..
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Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:45 pm
TechnoWeenie
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Back story : Man does a 1A audit, walking around city hall to get public records. He's arrested for trespassing. Judge rules that you can't arrest someone for 'trespassing' as people have a right to access public buildings. So, he goes back there to file a public records request regarding his initial detention, in preparation to file a lawsuit. So, cops form a scheme to charge him with harassment.... for requesting public records..... at the direction of the police chief...
So, they admit they have no probable cause at the beginning of the video... and say they can't arrest him, and they have to let him shut the door if he doesn't want to talk.....Well, the guy tries to tell him he doesn't wanna talk, and the officer forces his way in, and arrests him.... despite courts already ruling that they can't do that... and against his own statement minutes earlier saying they have nothing to arrest him for.
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Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:11 pm
Eddie Dean
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People can end up on the bullshit list even when they are the victim or witness. In case you're wondering what the political make-up is of Pasco County is. It's a red county.
The Sheriff’s Office of Pasco County, Florida, harasses people in their own homes using a method they call “predictive policing.” The program has unfolded like a dystopian nightmare for the Pasco County residents it has ensnared, who have been subjected to near-constant police surveillance and harassment. The Sheriff’s Office claims the program’s goal is to predict and prevent crime before it happens by targeting people they suspect may commit crimes in the future, dubbing the approach “intelligence-led policing.” This euphemism may make it seem like there’s thoughtfulness to the approach, but there’s nothing fair or smart about it.
Using a crude computer algorithm, the Sheriff’s Office creates a list of people they think are likely to commit crimes in the future. It places people on the list based on their criminal record, but also based on things that the person may not have been able to control, such as whether they have been suspected of a crime, whether they witnessed a crime or even whether they were a victim of a crime. The Sheriff’s Office calls the people on the list “prolific offenders.”
Then, deputies are sent out to monitor, intimidate and harass people on the list. The deputies are instructed to gather as much information as possible about their targets, and routinely show up unannounced at people’s houses to interrogate them about their friends, their families and their comings and goings. Dalanea Taylor, who was placed on the prolific offender list because she had been incarcerated as a teenager, was harassed by Pasco deputies for years after she was released and had turned her life around.
Code enforcement is a favorite tactic for ensuring compliance during the deputies’ visits. To coerce people into letting the deputies into their home or answering their questions—or sometimes purely to intimidate them—the deputies slap their victims with citations for innocuous offenses like missing house numbers on the mailbox, chickens in the back yard or unmowed grass on the lawn. By design, family members of prolific offenders are ensnared by the program too. Robert Jones had a son on the prolific offender list, and Pasco deputies showed up at his door multiple times a week asking about his son. When the deputies decided that he wasn’t cooperating fully, they wrote him multiple citations for tall grass and other similar property code violations. They even arrested him several times on bogus charges.
Tammy Heilman and Dolly Deegan, who both had sons on the list, also received multiple citations for thousands of dollars in fines for code enforcement violations.
Worse, the motivation of the program is more sinister than merely “fighting crime”: The Sheriff’s Office acknowledged that they want these “problem people” gone. Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco, the architect of the program, boasted that the goal was to predict which residents are likely to commit crimes and then “take them out.” In the words of a former Pasco County deputy, they were under orders to “[m]ake their lives miserable until they move or sue.”
Experts on policing have roundly criticized Pasco County’s practices, pointing out that it is based on junk science and could tend to reinforce racially biased policing practices.
But the Sheriff’s use of predictive policing is not only methodologically shaky; it’s unconstitutional. The government cannot harass you in your home just because it has decided that you or someone you live with might someday do something wrong. That’s why Robert, Dalanea, Tammy, and Dolly have decided to challenge Pasco’s program, alongside the Institute for Justice, in court to affirm the basic principle that there is no such thing as “innocent until predicted guilty.”
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Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:12 am
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Good cops and calltaker explains to idiots at a business that someone has a right to film anything they want from a sidewalk..
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Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:37 pm
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NAPERVILLE, Ill. (WLS) -- A man who was fatally shot by a veteran Naperville police officer after he allegedly attacked him with a hatchet during a traffic stop Friday morning has been identified.
The DuPage County Coroner's Office identified the man as Edward C. Samaan, 28, of Naperville on Tuesday. An autopsy has been completed, but the cause and manner of his death is still under investigation pending toxicology results.
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Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:54 pm
TechnoWeenie
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Working with a guy for almost an hour to get him to go the hospital since he's mentally unstable... accommodated the guy left and right with silly requests like wanting to touch his badge and wanting to put the police car in a different spot...
Super cool...amazing job....
Sad it ended in a shooting, but also goes to show you how you think you 'know' someone, and the situation can change like flipping a switch...
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Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:09 pm
TechnoWeenie
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Cop threatens man with arrest for flying flag on his own property..... Then takes down the flag.....
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