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Chinese Wuhan coronavirus aka COVID-19 - now in WA
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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L_O_G wrote: martin248 wrote: Put it this way:
You're going to get COVID. It's inevitable. And you will most likely get it multiple times, like you catch a cold multiple times.
You might not get it this year, you might instead get it next year, or the year after. Or maybe you will get it in all three years.
The question is what happens when you do get it? If you have been vaccinated, or if you had a previous case, odds are it'll be mild. Not guaranteed--just better odds.
If you get it without any immunity then you face the full impact. Which in most people is still mild, but in a pretty big number results in hospitalization and/or long term side effects, and in a small but significant number results in death. So a coworker of mine, fully vaccinated but tested positive for covid last week. Remind me again why the vaccine is so important? Did you study fractions in school? The vaccine is not 100% effective. It protects a large fraction of people, and for those who get it anyway a larger fraction get mild cases.
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Mon May 03, 2021 9:18 am |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5878
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martin248 wrote: Did you study fractions in school? The vaccine is not 100% effective. It protects a large fraction of people, and for those who get it anyway a larger fraction get mild cases. I would like to see the study to determine either the flu shot or COVID shots effectiveness. Why the comment regarding fractions? martin248 wrote: That's an approval. No it isn't. For someone who claims to follow the facts, I am sorely disappointed. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronav ... s/2486206/Currently, no coronavirus vaccine is fully approved by the FDA, but three were given emergency use authorization by the agency
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Mon May 03, 2021 9:23 am |
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L_O_G
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martin248 wrote: L_O_G wrote: martin248 wrote: Put it this way:
You're going to get COVID. It's inevitable. And you will most likely get it multiple times, like you catch a cold multiple times.
You might not get it this year, you might instead get it next year, or the year after. Or maybe you will get it in all three years.
The question is what happens when you do get it? If you have been vaccinated, or if you had a previous case, odds are it'll be mild. Not guaranteed--just better odds.
If you get it without any immunity then you face the full impact. Which in most people is still mild, but in a pretty big number results in hospitalization and/or long term side effects, and in a small but significant number results in death. So a coworker of mine, fully vaccinated but tested positive for covid last week. Remind me again why the vaccine is so important? Did you study fractions in school? The vaccine is not 100% effective. It protects a large fraction of people, and for those who get it anyway a larger fraction get mild cases. I did actually, not 100% effective even when masking. Yep another feather in the cap of fuck getting vaccinated.
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Mon May 03, 2021 9:27 am |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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L_O_G wrote: martin248 wrote: L_O_G wrote: martin248 wrote: Put it this way:
You're going to get COVID. It's inevitable. And you will most likely get it multiple times, like you catch a cold multiple times.
You might not get it this year, you might instead get it next year, or the year after. Or maybe you will get it in all three years.
The question is what happens when you do get it? If you have been vaccinated, or if you had a previous case, odds are it'll be mild. Not guaranteed--just better odds.
If you get it without any immunity then you face the full impact. Which in most people is still mild, but in a pretty big number results in hospitalization and/or long term side effects, and in a small but significant number results in death. So a coworker of mine, fully vaccinated but tested positive for covid last week. Remind me again why the vaccine is so important? Did you study fractions in school? The vaccine is not 100% effective. It protects a large fraction of people, and for those who get it anyway a larger fraction get mild cases. I did actually, not 100% effective even when masking. Yep another feather in the cap of fuck getting vaccinated. I think you might need to refresh your knowledge of fractions to learn things like 1/20 < 19/20.
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Mon May 03, 2021 9:38 am |
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jackass
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https://www.theverge.com/22189236/fda-a ... e-vaccinesIn most contexts, it’s perfectly acceptable to use “approval” and “authorization” interchangeably. But not at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and definitely not when it comes to COVID-19 vaccines. If the topic comes up at your Zoom holiday party, here’s a cheat sheet for the specific uses of these similar terms. Approval — No COVID-19 vaccines have been approved. Approval means the FDA has officially decided that a product is safe and effective for its designated use. The process for approval involves rigorous reviews of all available data on the product and can take several months. Authorization — To speed things up in an emergency like a pandemic, the FDA can grant an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). An EUA, as its name implies, authorizes a product for use during unusually urgent circumstances if the benefits of its use outweigh any known or potential risks. A vaccine that combats a global pandemic is an ideal candidate for an EUA – we can’t afford to lose any more time in the midst of a crisis with an ever-climbing death toll.
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Mon May 03, 2021 9:38 am |
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martin248
Location: Issaquah Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 Posts: 1033
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Great, thanks for clarifying that distinction without a difference.
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Mon May 03, 2021 9:38 am |
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surevaliance
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Obese are the real Covid super-spreaders. ‘They produce 1,000X times the infected air particles as normal people’.https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/elde ... -0w0zxlrp7
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Mon May 03, 2021 10:51 am |
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Pablo
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Mon May 03, 2021 10:53 am |
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OhShoot!
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Wow, that is quite a "front butt" there in that last pic . ewe.
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Mon May 03, 2021 11:07 am |
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WaJim
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OhShoot! wrote: Wow, that is quite a "front butt" there in that last pic . ewe. Stuff yer face in that Bike Rack , Huh?
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Wed May 05, 2021 5:34 am |
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jukk0u
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C'est cheese.
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Wed May 05, 2021 3:54 pm |
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Pablo
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jukk0u wrote: C'est cheese. Pretty much French for what collects down in all those cracks and crevices.
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Wed May 05, 2021 6:13 pm |
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RocketScott
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Pablo wrote: jukk0u wrote: C'est cheese. Pretty much French for what collects down in all those cracks and crevices. Fumunda cheese Came fumunda here... and more fumunda there
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Wed May 05, 2021 6:21 pm |
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Selador
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RocketScott wrote: Pablo wrote: jukk0u wrote: C'est cheese. Pretty much French for what collects down in all those cracks and crevices. Fumunda cheese Came fumunda here... and more fumunda there That is SO gross! Why am I laughing?
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Wed May 05, 2021 6:24 pm |
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Alpine
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The lib media is now claiming that the Chinese Wuhan virus death toll is "likely double" the "official" number. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... -suggests/Look at this shit: Quote: Many COVID-19 deaths go uncounted because some countries only record deaths that occur in hospitals or in people with confirmed infections, IHME director Dr. Christopher Murray said in a media briefing Thursday morning. OH MY GOD! Some countries only count virus deaths as virus deaths if... the virus actually caused the death? Not fair! In WA state if you get murdered it's really a "covid death." https://apnews.com/article/03408313b495 ... 781338259bIn short, the libs are scared about the consequences of the global recession they induced and the famine and death toll among impoverished black and brown 3rd world nations and that death toll dwarfing any potential virus death toll by huge margins, so they are trying to cook the books and inflate the virus death stats. They optimally even want to eventually add deaths from people who "deferred" other preventative healthcare because of fear about the virus. No joke, look at this shit: Quote: The study, which has not been peer reviewed, includes only deaths directly caused by COVID-19, not deaths caused by people delaying health care for other conditions and the pandemic’s disruption of health-care systems. Nevermind that that disruption of our healthcare system was intentional sabotage by blue state governors like Inslee who shuttered our hospitals for a "surge" that never came and drove them to 15-20% layoffs of medical staff DURING A PANDEMIC. https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/h ... hem-reopen
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