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 Chinese Wuhan coronavirus aka COVID-19 - now in WA 
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There is speculation now that the immunity protection from having survived the Kung Fu is short lived and is no guarantee of protection from reinfection by the same strain of the virus or from its now emerging many variants/mutations.


Yawn.... yup. Just like the yearly flu.

Seriously though - colds and the flu do the same thing. That's why we can get it again and again. It's my understanding, however, that the first round of fighting off a brand new (novel) virus will be the most onerous on the immune system. In subsequent contacts with the virus that has mutated a little, your body's antibodies will have a passing recognition to the altered virus and can mount a more coordinated defense quicker.

It also means that any new vaccine will be outdated before it is even given to the public. Ditto for the yearly flu vaccine.


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Is this true? I havent been listening to him lately because he gives headache.

Forced Isolation using National Guard?

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One tiny bright spot here.

The more dictatorial and tyrannical he gets here, the more likely enough people will remember in november.

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The more dictatorial and tyrannical he gets here, the more likely enough people will remember in november.


I hope so.
But the libtards in King, Pierce, and Snhomish counties love Washington State's own Al Gore.

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I thought this was interesting;

Some Doctors Pull Back on Ventilators

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Pre-Covid, doctors looking to boost a patient’s blood-oxygen levels would often turn first to less invasive methods of support such as CPAP or BiPAP machines that push air into a patient’s airway through a face mask, or high-flow nasal cannulas—prongs that blow heated, humidified oxygen into a patient’s nostrils. If that didn’t work, physicians would use mechanical ventilators.

But people with Covid-19 began showing up at the hospital with rarely seen, ultra-low blood-oxygen levels. Even for those who weren’t struggling to breathe, doctors were concerned that patients’ conditions could suddenly worsen, which with Covid-19 could swiftly turn deadly. So they often intubated sooner.

“In the past, you’d see these kinds of oxygen levels, and your brain would intuit all these other things,” said Scott Weingart, chief of emergency critical care in the department of emergency medicine at Stony Brook Hospital in Stony Brook, N.Y. “For instance, you’d assume the patient’s lungs must be so bad that if we don’t intubate now, they might crap out.”

Doctors have dubbed these patients “happy hypoxemics,” a reference to the paradox of abnormally low levels of oxygen found in their blood combined with an ability to breathe relatively easily. In recent weeks, doctors at Stony Brook Hospital have used ventilators less on these patients, turning instead to the CPAP or BiPAP machines or high-flow nasal cannulas.

Dr. Weingart remembers one of his first such patients in March—a 42-year-old man with blood-oxygen levels so low he should have been unconscious. Instead, he was sitting up, smiling and talking. He was breathing quickly, but seemed fine otherwise. Dr. Weingart and his team used a high-flow nasal cannula to boost the patient’s oxygen levels. They also turned him on his front, a method known as “prone positioning” that doctors have found can also help boost oxygen levels partly by reducing the pressure of the heart and diaphragm on the lungs. The patient was never put on a ventilator and was discharged in a week, Dr. Weingart said.

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https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/covid-19-h ... ive-policy

Over 3 hours video, but a pretty informational .gov video conference / round-table discussing the data and how the wrong data is driving policy.


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GF has a friend that makes and sells cloth masks.

I have a normal sized head, but the straps on this thing would pull my ears off after a day.
Same material they use for the little girls hair things.
Has a strap that fits on the ear pieces, behind the head but it's only 5" long.
Pretty sure the distance behind my head from ear to ear is a lot longer!.
God bless her though for buying it for me.


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Mon May 11, 2020 9:28 am
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Got one that my sister and one of her daughters sewed. Amazing fit. Washable. Reversible. 3 layers of cloth. The wire in the nose feels like copper and molds well. The elastic is done in separate pieces for top and bottom and are fed through a bead, so it's ultimately adjustable by sliding the bead and top and bottom elastic pieces. Fogs my glasses the least of any mask I've used.

I have to wonder if she got feedback from her Army Dr. hubby on the construction.

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https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/covid-19-how-new-information-should-drive-policy

Over 3 hours video, but a pretty informational .gov video conference / round-table discussing the data and how the wrong data is driving policy.



Damn, it's great hearing the multiple doctors say the target of flattening the curve has been achieved and that we need to open up.


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Massivedesign wrote:
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/covid-19-how-new-information-should-drive-policy

Over 3 hours video, but a pretty informational .gov video conference / round-table discussing the data and how the wrong data is driving policy.



Damn, it's great hearing the multiple doctors say the target of flattening the curve has been achieved and that we need to open up.


Especially Docs that are a part of a .gov panel on COVID Policy.


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I'm sure that we are all sick of this BS. I came across this article on the American Thinker website. It seems to put all the points that have been made against the lockdown from this thread into this article.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... stake.html

How to move past the great mistake......

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I'm a little surprised that the YouTube from Seattle PD officer Greg Anderson (soon to be former officer) speaking out on police across the nation not upholding the Constitution and protecting citizens is not being discussed on a WA gun forum.

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I'm a little surprised that the YouTube from Seattle PD officer Greg Anderson (soon to be former officer) speaking out on police across the nation not upholding the Constitution and protecting citizens is not being discussed on a WA gun forum.


It is.

Good cop/bad cop thread.
Page 9, 5th or 6th post down.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=105042&start=120

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Also, question.
Why did it make sense to give people on unemployment extra money per week on top of what they got normally?

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Why did it make sense to give people on unemployment extra money per week on top of what they got normally?

To make them not want to go back to work.

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