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Veteran kicked out of Everett McDonald's
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 Site Supporter   Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463 Real Name: Rick 
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Quote: Veteran kicked out of Everett McDonald's after open-carrying weapon Jonathan Nagel said he was asked to leave after obeying the manager's orders of putting his knife away. Author: Vanessa Misciagna Published: 9:08 PM PST January 20, 2020 Updated: 4:52 AM PST January 21, 2020 EVERETT, Wash. — Over the weekend, an incident occurred at an Everett McDonald's surrounding the issue of open-carrying weapons. Jonathan Nagel is a veteran who served in Afganistan and practices martial arts. Around his neck, he carries with him a curved blade, looking like a 4-inch-long talon, called a karambit, in a leather sheath. "I carry it every day," said Nagel. https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/veteran-kicked-out-of-everett-mcdonalds-after-open-carrying-weapon/281-c5399b4c-3f7a-421a-bcf1-cd2ef1e89d3a?fbclid=IwAR2SCy8OQ7a9LRIBF3c7UVif-cQnq-6_ZosPnj8zrPIeZqvV7lOPRrDV9ik _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:12 pm |
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In Memoriam  Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607 Real Name: George Bailey
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Fukin Believable _________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx "Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure" |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:16 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: 40 acres of 2A sanctuary Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 919
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Very sad. Where is turd Ferguson? Shouldn’t he protect this veterans rights.
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| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:18 pm |
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In Memoriam Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607 Real Name: George Bailey
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Well, not to pick nits but....
I may back off my original comment. Where would a person that has a name like Alefa Eserjose come from? Maybe she brings something with her heritage/ country of origin? Its still America, no? I mean the multi b/millionaire gets to say no guns in his coffee shop.....so _________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx "Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure" |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:26 pm |
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 Location: Sagamihara, Kanagawa Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2012 Posts: 960
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His veteran status has nothing to do with this.
_________________ You can't comply your way out of tyranny. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:31 pm |
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In Memoriam  Location: Gig Harbor Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 1829 Real Name: Nick
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acidfly wrote: His veteran status has nothing to do with this. Agreed. Nor does his race, but that was brought up too. This comes down to nothing more than an ignorant snowflake minimum wage employee that's conditioned to be scared of anything pointy or potentially dangerous. In reality it isn't much different than OCing a pistol. They ask you to leave and you leave and never go back. End of story. Not really sure why this is news...the business has a right to ask him to leave. It's a dumb reason and they should be ashamed of themselves but thats the law. _________________ Armed insurance broker. ObamaCare, life, health, medicare. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:37 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6793
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I think it is more about the color of the skin, than about being armed.
Here is another example of racism - H Mart in Federal Way (see attached screenshots from Yelp). Another place that is no different is Bear Arms in Covington. Just today our plant manager told me how he was tailgated by the old lady (store owner?), although there were other customers in the store, only because he was the only black person there. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. _________________ FPC member GOA member Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:44 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463 Real Name: Rick
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I'm surprised Bear Arms is still in business.
_________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:55 pm |
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Site Moderator   Location: Renton/Kent Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 3550 Real Name: Jacy
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Why the hell would you go to Bear Arms?? It sucks ass and is literally two minutes from Rehv Arms. Which is my second home.
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| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:03 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6793
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DGM33 wrote: Why the hell would you go to Bear Arms?? It sucks ass and is literally two minutes from Rehv Arms. Which is my second home. He stopped by to see if they have specific ammo in stock. I told him about Rehv then. _________________ FPC member GOA member Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:11 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4999 Real Name: Josheewa
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4" fixed blades are illegal to carry in most places.
_________________ It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35 Divided we fall. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:37 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463 Real Name: Rick
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Quote: Unlawful Carrying and Handling Section 9.41.270, captioned Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm–Unlawful carrying or handling–Penalty—Exceptions, is at the opposite end of the carry scale from concealed. It makes it unlawful for weapons to be overly visible: It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons. I could not find anything on length of blade. _________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:45 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: 40 acres of 2A sanctuary Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 919
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acidfly wrote: His veteran status has nothing to do with this. I understand. I was poking fun at the fact that there has been issues with Ferguson not supporting the correct people when it comes to persecution lawsuits if it concerns businesses and patrons. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:47 pm |
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Site Moderator  Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12508 Real Name: Oly Damon
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AR15L wrote: Quote: Unlawful Carrying and Handling Section 9.41.270, captioned Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm–Unlawful carrying or handling–Penalty—Exceptions, is at the opposite end of the carry scale from concealed. It makes it unlawful for weapons to be overly visible: It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons. I could not find anything on length of blade. https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/Evere ... t1078.html Quote: 10.78.010 Definitions. The following definitions apply in this chapter: A. “Dangerous knife” means any knife having a blade more than three inches in length, or any dirk, dagger, sword, bayonet, bolo knife, hatchets, straightedge razor, or razor blade not in a package, dispenser, or shaving appliance. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:53 pm |
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In Memoriam Location: Gig Harbor Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 1829 Real Name: Nick
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But that goes on to say:
10.78.030 Unlawful use of weapons—Generally. A. It is unlawful for any person to: 2. Carry concealed on his person any dangerous knife; provided, that a dangerous knife carried openly in a sheath suspended from the waist of a person is not concealed within the meaning of this subsection; or So it's A-OK to open carry that knife, in fact required. _________________ Armed insurance broker. ObamaCare, life, health, medicare. |
| Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:57 pm |
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