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The civil war has already begun: Change my mind
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ViniVidivici
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I'd say thanks for the tip, I will adjust my ROE accordingly.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:28 pm |
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surevaliance
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ViniVidivici wrote: I'd say thanks for the tip, I will adjust my ROE accordingly. +1
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:46 pm |
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derrickito
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:29 pm |
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surevaliance
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derrickito wrote: https://thehill.com/homenews/news/522509-feds-say-far-right-group-coordinated-attack-on-minneapolis-police-precinct Quote: Federal officials said the shooter can be seen in the footage walking up to the camera and high-fiving other individuals before shouting “Justice for Floyd!” Lol! What the hell "right-wing militia" has to do with "justice for floyd"?Sounds like klantifa or burn-loot-murder to me.
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:40 pm |
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derrickito
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I'm pretty sure someone that posts conspiracy theories and the like constantly can identify a term to describe that type of action https://www.dictionary.com/browse/false-flagIt's almost like there's been a pattern of these types of behaviors https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbre ... index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/ant ... index.html
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:45 pm |
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Tod
Location: Seattle Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 682
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OhShoot! wrote: Who exactly is this mysterious "they" that everybody keeps referencing on this thread? Here "they" are... HEEEEEEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY!!! [youtube1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4&t=121s[/youtube1] If that doesn't work, this will: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4&t=121s
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:51 pm |
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Alpine
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Edit: NVM, not even worth my time to try and reason it out. I'm done.
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:59 pm |
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sportsdad60
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TINCANBANDIT wrote: anyone wishing they would have turned McCarthy loose on these assholes back in the 50's? Perhaps we need a purge every few years to get rid of these evil retards
#finishwhatmccarthystarted Yet Hollyweird still produces movies making McCarthy look like the bad boogie man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumbo_(2015_film)
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Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:32 am |
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movingviolation
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bit of a long read but so true https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/history-unerring-redundant-unforgiving-shocking-parallels-1917-russian-bolshevik-revolution-2020-us-leftist-rebellion/Quote: ...A fitting epilogue to the history of a bloodless coup reads: “Thus we’ve seen a return to social democratic strategies, first with the tepid ‘socialism’ of Bernie Sanders, more recently with the resuscitation of the Democratic Socialists of America. Voters in Europe figured out long ago the pointlessness of electing so-called socialists to over see a capitalist economy. The US, as usual, has failed to learn from others’ mistakes.”
America, history documents a historical bloodless coup in 1917 that changed the destiny of the world and multiplied misery, famine and ignited suffering on every continent of our sphere. The enchanting utopia presented by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the DEMS is a dream. In thew wake of the Bloodless Coup of 1917 we search for the promised hope. But as one looks under the mounds of corpses sacrificed to this evil ideology and as we thumb through endless pages accounting its brutal oppression, you cannot find even the slightest hope. All seeking the rewards of a bloodless coup find only ruin and degradation. It is an Elysium dream.
This is where the DEMS are leading our nation. Their inevitable end is validated by history and history is unerring, redundant and unforgiving…
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Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:55 pm |
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surevaliance
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Kids today: 4 in 10 call Constitution ‘outdated,’ OK with silencing speech.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... ing-speechQuote: - Thirty-six percent believe the Constitution is outdated, while 52% call it “important.” A year ago, 63% called the founding document important. - While support for the First Amendment is at 72%, that is the lowest in six years. - More students, by a margin of 48%-41%, favor “speech codes.” - For the first time, a majority of students (52%) “now say they share the same opinions and beliefs as all or most of their friends.” Only a third have friends who don’t think like them. - Forty percent agree that “it is sometimes appropriate to shout down or disrupt a speaker on campus.” - Thirty-nine percent “agree that violence can be justified to prevent a person from using hate speech or making racially charged comments, while 51% disagree. This is the highest ‘agree’ number in four years and an eight-point increase from last year.” - Fifty-three percent feel intimidated in sharing their views if they disagree with their professor.
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Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:09 am |
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AR15L
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surevaliance wrote: Kids today: 4 in 10 call Constitution ‘outdated,’ OK with silencing speech.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... ing-speechQuote: - Thirty-six percent believe the Constitution is outdated, while 52% call it “important.” A year ago, 63% called the founding document important. - While support for the First Amendment is at 72%, that is the lowest in six years. - More students, by a margin of 48%-41%, favor “speech codes.” - For the first time, a majority of students (52%) “now say they share the same opinions and beliefs as all or most of their friends.” Only a third have friends who don’t think like them. - Forty percent agree that “it is sometimes appropriate to shout down or disrupt a speaker on campus.” - Thirty-nine percent “agree that violence can be justified to prevent a person from using hate speech or making racially charged comments, while 51% disagree. This is the highest ‘agree’ number in four years and an eight-point increase from last year.” - Fifty-three percent feel intimidated in sharing their views if they disagree with their professor. With those stats I'd bet the teachers are so very proud of their indoctrination process.
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Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:16 am |
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Col_Temp
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movingviolation wrote: bit of a long read but so true https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/history-unerring-redundant-unforgiving-shocking-parallels-1917-russian-bolshevik-revolution-2020-us-leftist-rebellion/Quote: ...A fitting epilogue to the history of a bloodless coup reads: “Thus we’ve seen a return to social democratic strategies, first with the tepid ‘socialism’ of Bernie Sanders, more recently with the resuscitation of the Democratic Socialists of America. Voters in Europe figured out long ago the pointlessness of electing so-called socialists to over see a capitalist economy. The US, as usual, has failed to learn from others’ mistakes.”
America, history documents a historical bloodless coup in 1917 that changed the destiny of the world and multiplied misery, famine and ignited suffering on every continent of our sphere. The enchanting utopia presented by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the DEMS is a dream. In thew wake of the Bloodless Coup of 1917 we search for the promised hope. But as one looks under the mounds of corpses sacrificed to this evil ideology and as we thumb through endless pages accounting its brutal oppression, you cannot find even the slightest hope. All seeking the rewards of a bloodless coup find only ruin and degradation. It is an Elysium dream.
This is where the DEMS are leading our nation. Their inevitable end is validated by history and history is unerring, redundant and unforgiving… Yeah I read that one too. Not a perfect parallel but it does give some insights to what can happen. People forget it wasn't the stinking commies that topple the Czars. It was the people. The commies stepped in and took over by ignoring the will of the people and basically staged a coup that worked. Problem is I don't think the silly socialists here have that many inroads into the military that the Bolshevist's did. Also, information and transportation are much easier than back then too. But the warnings should be heeded.
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Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:56 pm |
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SurfPerch
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Col_Temp wrote: Yeah I read that one too. Not a perfect parallel but it does give some insights to what can happen. People forget it wasn't the stinking commies that topple the Czars. It was the people. The commies stepped in and took over by ignoring the will of the people and basically staged a coup that worked. Problem is I don't think the silly socialists here have that many inroads into the military that the Bolshevist's did. Also, information and transportation are much easier than back then too.
But the warnings should be heeded. Agree, as someone being intimately familiar with Russian history I find analogy a bit strained... I do not think that the current coup in progress is in need to directly compromise military either. Ballot "harvesting" will do just fine. :) I think it would be more to the point to remember 1966 China. Mao's "cultural revolution" and how it was done. Granted - different systems, but similar goals and means: Quote: Mao launched the so-called Cultural Revolution (known in full as the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution) in August 1966, at a meeting of the Plenum of the Central Committee. He shut down the nation’s schools, calling for a massive youth mobilization to take current party leaders to task for their embrace of bourgeois values and lack of revolutionary spirit. In the months that followed, the movement escalated quickly as the students formed paramilitary groups called the Red Guards and attacked and harassed members of China’s elderly and intellectual population...The population was urged to rid itself of the “Four Olds”: Old customs, old culture, old habits, and old ideas.
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― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964
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Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:29 pm |
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SurfPerch
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SurfPerch wrote: In my humble opinion we're not at "civil war" stage. We're at "revolution" stage to destroy status-quo (American nationhood in this case)
'"Civil war" in history is essentially "counter-revolution" to the accomplished revolutionary goals. That was the case in Russia after bolshevik's coup d'etat 1917 it took several years of bloody civil war for bolsheviks to turn coup d'etat in the capital into communist state in 1920s. It took the accomplished act of secession by South to start American Civil War. Sometimes "revolutions" win w/o significant counter-revolution ("Bay of Pigs" in Cuba was all that happened, Mao's youngsters "cultural revolution" in China ended up straight in re-education camps, Germans brought Nazis to power in democratic election with totalitarian regime replacing it afterwards with no significant opposition).
The question is if current "cultural revolution" ends up in a) a "win" and b) in a counter-revolutionary civil war.
a) How's the "cultural revolution" win would look like? The psychobabble "ideology" of the left is a joke and is not a recipe for a statehood building - it is actually anti-nation construct. The dogs and bitches of the left were called upon to scare off and to demoralize potential Trump voters ("despicables and deplorables" "clinging to their guns and bible") . So their "win" will look like Biden's puppet win and dem win in senate and house. After which I expect the dogs will be called off and those who persist will end up quickly in jail. "Law and order" restored, country "united" and "reconciled" with "historical reforms". The slew of legislative action will follow to consolidate the dem "win". The 2A will most likely be the first casualty. The "other side" will need to be disarmed to ensure no armed resistance ever possible. 1A will be essentially a moot point with "cancellation" policy and "thought police" everywhere at the workplaces and business via relentless doxxing enabled and aided by the government, global corporations and crowds of loyal rabid left. And of course they spend like crazy on idiotic projects plunging already wounded country into deepest recession.
b) What everybody else will be doing in response to a)? I expect - nothing. Shut up and cower. Keep your job, pay your mortgage, ensure that future of your kids is not endangered by your actions. Hand over your guns on demand. Let the steam out in your kitchens - but not in a too loud voice, so that neighbors would not overhear. Teach you kids to say "right things" not to endanger their future. Especially in a follow up recession...
c) Another outcome - Trump win. Very remote possibility. It's not that Trump cannot have a majority - he might. But dems in this environment will stuff ballot boxes to ensure their "landslide" victory. In a very remote chance that win happens - the dogs will become really rabid. Civil war? No - just failed so far "revolution". But it would not stop. My looking glass is getting murky there. More of the same? :) The problem here that Trump is not ideologue, alone and clueless in a swamp. He has no idea what he can do to win and no means to do that. Anyway it goes we're in for a very rough ride... But not a CW. Just reviewing what I wrote back in July... Still do not see CW on horizon. One side won w/o violent opposition - deep state status quo regained. Both parties can go back to their kobuki dance of fake opposition and peaceful transfer of power to each other in turns... Beijing raises Champaign glasses with global Wall Street frogs and Washington DC crocodiles. No more rocking the boat. America now is ready for peaceful transfer of the world power and final descent into mediocrity, relative poverty and irrelevance.... The question is what to do today with potentially large scale election fraud? The size of the fraud on one hand makes it very big target - so it seems like there will be no better time to catch the fraud machine in action. On the other hand the fact they have an ability to execute the fraud of that scale w/o a single whistleblower makes the attempt doomed to fail anyway. So, whatever... So what about CW? Will the other side ever show up to wage a "war"? #RESIST? Will there be a spark? Who knows - "Harris administration" may just be ugly enough to provide one. Hard to say what it can be now... For 4 years Trump stood alone. "His" side has no leadership, goals, organization. Perhaps removing polarizing Trump character from the equation would allow americans to make more rational policy choices...
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― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964
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Selador
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SurfPerch wrote: So what about CW? Will the other side ever show up to wage a "war"? #RESIST? Will there be a spark? The first "civil war" was actually the revolutionary war. That was sparked when the british came for our guns. The outright fighting in this one will probably be sparked by the same thing. When they come for our guns. And the outcome will be once again, a better America. With stronger individual rights. And a stronger "spirit of America".
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