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Annalee
Location: Edmonds, WA Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 Posts: 422
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As a mom of littles, I 100% agree with you on voting no. I've done some digging into the curriculum that would be approved and it's not in any way, shape or form age-appropriate. This is what I said about it on my facebook:
As a parent of a seven-year-old daughter, I can tell you right now that I don't think she needs to be learning about a "very sensitive little area called the clitoris". She doesn't need to become confused by learning that "some girls have penises" and other beliefs of the doctrine of transgenderism. My ten-year-old son does not need to see graphic cartoon representations of sex and masturbation or how to become a "sex ed sleuth" by going on websites to learn about 69 and blue balls. They're kids. The biggest red flag in all of this, in my opinion, is the fact that there is no easy way for the parents of Washington state to see exactly what their children will be learning and at what ages. It is my sincere belief that there would be an uproar if that were the case. There is already a fairly great uproar. The signatures collected to overturn this bill broke Washington state records. I encourage you to vote to REJECT Referendum 90 this fall; at the very least, until there is more transparency for the parents of this state.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:37 pm |
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zombie66
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Location: Spanaway WA Joined: Wed Jul 6, 2011 Posts: 6313
Real Name: Hugo Stiglitz
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This whole initiative is fucking sick to say the least.....Any idiot who votes in favor of it need to have their fucking head examined.....
I grew up in Oregon and sex ed did NOT start until the 7th Grade and even then you HAD to have your parents sign a pretty long form as I remember it, it wasnt like a field-day form or student excuse form.
Teaching little ones about this stuff at an early age is gonna create some pretty fucking sick monsters in the future.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:46 pm |
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7807
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As stated before this is nothing but an indoctrination of children, your children, the absurdity of the liberal party. Plain and simple a shit storm that will cost taxpayers millions of dollars when a Fruitloop teacher goes all touchy-feely.
VOTE NO on this garbage!!!
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:03 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52064
Real Name: Steve
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Annalee wrote: As a mom of littles, I 100% agree with you on voting no. I've done some digging into the curriculum that would be approved and it's not in any way, shape or form age-appropriate. This is what I said about it on my facebook:
As a parent of a seven-year-old daughter, I can tell you right now that I don't think she needs to be learning about a "very sensitive little area called the clitoris". She doesn't need to become confused by learning that "some girls have penises" and other beliefs of the doctrine of transgenderism. My ten-year-old son does not need to see graphic cartoon representations of sex and masturbation or how to become a "sex ed sleuth" by going on websites to learn about 69 and blue balls. They're kids. The biggest red flag in all of this, in my opinion, is the fact that there is no easy way for the parents of Washington state to see exactly what their children will be learning and at what ages. It is my sincere belief that there would be an uproar if that were the case. There is already a fairly great uproar. The signatures collected to overturn this bill broke Washington state records. I encourage you to vote to REJECT Referendum 90 this fall; at the very least, until there is more transparency for the parents of this state. Heeeyyyy, look who's back!
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:21 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28187
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bubblewhip wrote: derrickito wrote: i voted yes. i believe the school system can develop and teach age appropriate material to educate youth on sex and sexual health topics. i don't see this as an inappropriate or difficult task. we teach kids in schools about civics, science, health, and an array of other topics. sex ed should be in there. an educated population will hopefully make educated decisions. the full ballot and information including arguments for and against is here: https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_Refe ... sure_(2020) What is actually in the curriculum? what are the handouts or course materials being provided to teachers and kids? I don't see any information on what is actually being taught other than a general overview? Fair question. Scroll and see Annalee's response. Check this: https://mynorthwest.com/2193921/a-visua ... e-to-hide/It's pretty extreme. Kids at that young age don't need to pushed to decide what gender they prefer. If they are gay, ok it will come out later, 12-13-14+ and we should be accepting. But 5 or 6? No way.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:58 pm |
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Pitbull
Location: Snohomish Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2019 Posts: 361
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Teaching INNOCENT children sex ed at that age is child abuse. Plain and simple. If a parent of young kids thinks that introduction to adulthood at that age is necessary, then they might just be lousy parents. Or pedos. Kids deserve to be kids. Any teacher willing to teach adult behavior to innocent children(single digit age?) shouldnt be trusted with the children. Diversity (new science?) and sex arent the same thing. Or even associated.Unless were talking skanky? But its good for confusion and the destruction of values in our little ones i guess? Cant see the benefit here yet... And what does bullying have to do with sex ed at the elementary level? Why not teach them self respect instead? Or to be competitive? Or math? State testing results are a very good guage for a progress report on the teachers performance. And its not looking good at the moment for them. But they keep getting paid more and teach less and less vital behavior. And knowledge is power. So its like theyre trying to disadvantage them? And their futures. Its perversion. Remember they cast out God from school long ago. Now the Pledge of Allegiance is offensive too? Racist even? But satanists are welcome to do their evil prayers at the capital building lobby? The state education(or deliberate lack thereof) board needs to be put in check. Its just disgusting anymore with those people and their ideology. Dogma
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:45 pm |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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Pablo wrote: Check this: https://mynorthwest.com/2193921/a-visua ... e-to-hide/It's pretty extreme. Kids at that young age don't need to pushed to decide what gender they prefer. If they are gay, ok it will come out later, 12-13-14+ and we should be accepting. But 5 or 6? No way. this is fucking insane.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:24 pm |
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acidfly
Location: Sagamihara, Kanagawa Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2012 Posts: 960
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derrickito wrote: i voted yes. i believe the school system can develop and teach age appropriate material to educate youth on sex and sexual health topics. i don't see this as an inappropriate or difficult task. we teach kids in schools about civics, science, health, and an array of other topics. sex ed should be in there. an educated population will hopefully make educated decisions. the full ballot and information including arguments for and against is here: https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_Refe ... sure_(2020) Of course you did, having to see all your other comments it isn't surprising. To everyone else, I know this is a public forum but WTF? I come here to get away from people like this.. take that shit to REDDIT with the other brainwashed bootlickers.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:25 pm |
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derrickito
Joined: Mon Aug 26, 2013 Posts: 303
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You're right. You caught me. I'm really just a satanic commie who wants to turn all your kids gay. My bad!
It's the adrenochrome.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:43 pm |
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reginald_burrito
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Location: Not Seattle Joined: Wed Nov 2, 2016 Posts: 698
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Are we all just coming here for an echo chamber of agreement with our opinions? Or are we here to discuss stuff? I’m here for the latter. This is a discussion board, after all.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:48 pm |
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acidfly
Location: Sagamihara, Kanagawa Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2012 Posts: 960
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derrickito wrote: You're right. You caught me. I'm really just a satanic commie who wants to turn all your kids gay. My bad!
It's the adrenochrome. Personally I don't have a problem with gay people, you using it as a derogatory way shows that you might.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:52 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18470
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reginald_burrito wrote: Are we all just coming here for an echo chamber of agreement with our opinions? Or are we here to discuss stuff? I’m here for the latter. This is a discussion board, after all. Good luck getting any answers.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:31 pm |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5882
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I am very heartened by all of your answers, I thought I was one of the few that never supported this.
I am a Gen Xer who had to go thru all the social programming in the 70s to include tv, radio, schooling and the like (even the Army later). I turned out very liberal despite my parents being in the John Birch Society.
My path out of the brainwashing was a junkie who pointed a handgun at me in the early morning while I was running in E. LA. From there on, I remembered what the previous generations said, and I started to change my understanding of the world.
Part of people's reactions on this board I assume are like mine, we continually hear liberal programming at work and MSM and I myself am lectured by people with less life experience than I on how much of a racist, sexist, "homophobe" (if that's a word) etc. I am. I take this in stride, but retreat to WaGuns as my "safe space" to get with others who are like minded.
Yeah, I imagine this board is big enough for other ideas but understand where many of us are coming from.
Some of us don't think that Drag Queen Story time is good and we especially don't want our precious tax dollars supporting this. We want our money spent like it was our own and would prefer if it went towards English, science and math. We are especially chagrined where traditional civic activities like remembering the Revolution or our heritage are shunned.
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Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:52 am |
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Annalee
Location: Edmonds, WA Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 Posts: 422
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MadPick wrote: Annalee wrote: As a mom of littles, I 100% agree with you on voting no. I've done some digging into the curriculum that would be approved and it's not in any way, shape or form age-appropriate. This is what I said about it on my facebook:
As a parent of a seven-year-old daughter, I can tell you right now that I don't think she needs to be learning about a "very sensitive little area called the clitoris". She doesn't need to become confused by learning that "some girls have penises" and other beliefs of the doctrine of transgenderism. My ten-year-old son does not need to see graphic cartoon representations of sex and masturbation or how to become a "sex ed sleuth" by going on websites to learn about 69 and blue balls. They're kids. The biggest red flag in all of this, in my opinion, is the fact that there is no easy way for the parents of Washington state to see exactly what their children will be learning and at what ages. It is my sincere belief that there would be an uproar if that were the case. There is already a fairly great uproar. The signatures collected to overturn this bill broke Washington state records. I encourage you to vote to REJECT Referendum 90 this fall; at the very least, until there is more transparency for the parents of this state. Heeeyyyy, look who's back! Haha, yeah, I lurk from time to time. I'm north of Spokane now, livin' the dream, lol
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Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:49 am |
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Ducksauce798
Location: Camano Island Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 90
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I voted no.
I didn't think the curriculum was bad, I think teaching young children about consent and inappropriate touching is important. It had an opt out clause.
I didn't agree with the vitriol about choosing your own gender and that nonsense.
But mainly I voted no because Washington public education is trash, and even with good intentions they will screw this up.
If the State of Washingtons Government gets involved, you know its going to be a bad time.
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