You missed the interesting parts. First section was boring, didn't care. But the lack of blood, the movement of Ashli, the reactions of the bystanders was interesting. And there was those two known Antifa guys present. And never saw Ashli taken out of the Capitol seemingly ALIVE.
If someone broke into your house, and you locked yourself in a bedroom, then that person was attempting to enter that bedroom, would you shoot them? We all know the answer to that.
We all know answer to that, but apparently not everyone knows why that would be legal.
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A castle doctrine, also known as a castle law or a defense of habitation law, is a legal doctrine that designates a person's abode or any legally occupied place (for example, a vehicle or home) as a place in which that person has protections and immunities permitting one, in certain circumstances, to use force (up to and including deadly force) to defend oneself against an intruder, free from legal prosecution for the consequences of the force used.The term is most commonly used in the United States, though many other countries (see below) invoke comparable principles in their laws.
So this "bedroom" reference from the gov-t serfs has nothing to do with circumstances of Ashley's murder by a capitol cop. Capitol isn't anybody' f*ing "castle". It was a trespass, act of civil disobedience, widely tolerated during political protests in the country with a representative democracy where people have a First Amendment right "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." at the seat of the said gov-t "by the people, for the people" There's no slightest excuse for use of deadly force here. I have enough already of this groveling and blaming the victim. Shame.
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― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
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“Secondly, I want to ask you: Did you order the assassination of the woman who walked into the Congress and who was shot and killed by a policeman?” Putin said. “Do you know that 450 individuals were arrested after entering Congress? And they didn’t go there to steal a laptop. They came with political demands. 450 people have been detained. They’re facing jail time, from 15 to 20 years. And they came to Congress with political demands. Isn’t that persecution for political opinions?”
That's how ridiculous US gov-t looks with its phony "insurrection" indignation. Worse than Putin. Which of course, didn't fail to amuse Putin...
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:17 pm
Ranb
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I don't think the conspiracy theory about antifa or blm being responsible for the capitol riots is going to gain any traction until Trump takes back his claim that he loved the rioters or until we get any members of Congress who claim it was anyone other than the alt-right or Trump supporters who were involved.
Trump had access to some of the best intelligence information in the world. Surely he would have know if it was antifa and blm threatening to hang his vice president.
...Surely he would have know if it was antifa and blm threatening to hang his vice president.
One can literally hear a hissing and see a venom dripping from liberal fangs... The implication is that if that was some deranged Trump supporter they would intentionally keep it from Trump? :) Look who's conspiracy theorist now...
Perhaps we can ask then who killed Ashley and they would tell us?
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:21 pm
RocketScott
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A left-wing activist who openly documented and discussed his involvement in the pro-Donald Trump rally which turned into an insurrection at the Capitol is now facing criminal charges.
John Sullivan, 26, founder of protest group Insurgence USA, recorded himself entering through a Capitol window that had been broken out by the rioters before roaming the halls of Congress during the January 6 attack.
Sullivan, of Utah, told authorities that he was in Washington D.C. that day as an activist and journalist who was recording the events, but admitted he did not have any press credentials.
Prior to entering the Capitol building, Sullivan can be seen using a microphone to address the crowd outside and yelling "we about to burn this s**t down" before leading the crowd in a chant of "it's time for a revolution," FBI Special Agent Matthew Foulger said in an affidavit.
As the mob pushed through barricades towards the Capitol, Sullivan was heard shouting: "We accomplished this s**t. We did this together. F**k yeah! We are all a part of this history," and "Let's burn this s**t down."
Sullivan also filmed himself assisting those who were climbing up walls to get to the plaza just outside the Capitol Building entrance, telling them "You guys are f*****g savage. Let's go!"
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Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:19 pm
Ranb
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One can literally hear a hissing and see a venom dripping from liberal fangs... The implication is that if that was some deranged Trump supporter they would intentionally keep it from Trump? :) Look who's conspiracy theorist now...
Perhaps we can ask then who killed Ashley and they would tell us?
The implication is that Trump knew it was his people who were attacking his capital, the same people he told to "stand by". The same people he claimed to love. The same people who were arrested and claimed they were there on Trump orders.
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Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:06 pm
Ranb
Location: Belfair, WA Joined: Tue Apr 5, 2011 Posts: 667
Looks like Sullivan is also the one who says this;
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Speaking to Rolling Stone, Sullivan said: "I was worried about people recognizing me and thinking that I was Antifa or, like, BLM or whatever.
"The entire time they're yelling, 'F**k Antifa! F**k, BLM.' I'm not saying I'm Antifa, by any means. But I definitely believe Black Lives Matter."
Speaking to Desert News, Sullivan again claimed that he chanted and appeared to join in with the violence at the Capitol because "when you're in a massive crowd like that, you have to blend in."
So is Sullivan the single BLM guy at the scene who managed to convince the 500 alt-right morons who were arrested to join him in the riot? That guy has some power if he actually accomplished that.
I doubt any of you guys would be blaming BLM if the alt-right fantasy of stopping the certification of those states that cast their votes for Biden actually occurred.
One can literally hear a hissing and see a venom dripping from liberal fangs... The implication is that if that was some deranged Trump supporter they would intentionally keep it from Trump? :) Look who's conspiracy theorist now...
Perhaps we can ask then who killed Ashley and they would tell us?
The implication is that Trump knew it was his people who were attacking his capital, the same people he told to "stand by". The same people he claimed to love. The same people who were arrested and claimed they were there on Trump orders.
' What do your so called "implications" have to do with murder of Ashley Babbitt , lack of a due process and this thread? Do your "implications" justify killing protesters for trespassing into the seat of "representative" gov-t to "address their grievances", arresting them and holding w/o bail or trial for months? What implications does that have in a liberal fashist brain?
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:38 pm
Ranb
Location: Belfair, WA Joined: Tue Apr 5, 2011 Posts: 667
What do your so called "implications" have to do with murder of Ashley Babbitt , lack of a due process and this thread? Do your "implications" justify killing protesters for trespassing into the seat of "representative" gov-t to "address their grievances", arresting them and holding w/o bail or trial for months? What implications does that have in a liberal fashist brain?
People are dressing up the death of Babbitt as a person who was murdered while she was "exercising her rights" instead of a criminal who was killed for being part of a violent mob by a person who was defending themselves. Good luck with that.
I don't have a liberal fascist brain, so I don't know what is going on in yours.
What do your so called "implications" have to do with murder of Ashley Babbitt , lack of a due process and this thread? Do your "implications" justify killing protesters for trespassing into the seat of "representative" gov-t to "address their grievances", arresting them and holding w/o bail or trial for months? What implications does that have in a liberal fashist brain?
People are dressing up the death of Babbitt as a person who was murdered while she was "exercising her rights" instead of a criminal who was killed for being part of a violent mob by a person who was defending themselves....
Why "instead of"? Why would her trespass invalidate well documented fact that she was there to exercise her rights? Now, please provide a link to a criminal court proceedings proving that :
a) she was found guilty of a crime (which one?) b) she was killed "for being part of a violent mob" (I'd love the precedent to legally deal with liberal brownshirts) c) by a person who was defending themselves (legal self-defense)
_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald ReaganOct. 27, 1964
Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:13 pm
Ranb
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Why "instead of"? Why would her trespass invalidate well documented fact that she was there to exercise her rights? Now, please provide a link to a criminal court proceedings proving that :
a) she was found guilty of a crime (which one?) b) she was killed "for being part of a violent mob" (I'd love the precedent to legally deal with liberal brownshirts) c) by a person who was defending themselves (legal self-defense)
You know your questions are stupid, right?
People who were killed (murdered?) are not subsequently put on trial and convicted. Are you actually claiming that the mob was not violent? Since when does law enforcement have to do much more than claim they feared for their lives prior to killing someone and getting away with it? Did you wail this much over the death of George Floyd? Why do you think the officer who killed Babbit will ever be the subject of any court proceeding?
Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:23 pm
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What do your so called "implications" have to do with murder of Ashley Babbitt , lack of a due process and this thread? Do your "implications" justify killing protesters for trespassing into the seat of "representative" gov-t to "address their grievances", arresting them and holding w/o bail or trial for months? What implications does that have in a liberal fashist brain?
People are dressing up the death of Babbitt as a person who was murdered while she was "exercising her rights" instead of a criminal who was killed for being part of a violent mob by a person who was defending themselves....
Why "instead of"? Why would her trespass invalidate well documented fact that she was there to exercise her rights? Now, please provide a link to a criminal court proceedings proving that :
a) she was found guilty of a crime (which one?) b) she was killed "for being part of a violent mob" (I'd love the precedent to legally deal with liberal brownshirts) c) by a person who was defending themselves (legal self-defense)
$30 million in damage and 5 dead. Not a violent mob? You so sure?
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Why "instead of"? Why would her trespass invalidate well documented fact that she was there to exercise her rights? Now, please provide a link to a criminal court proceedings proving that :
a) she was found guilty of a crime (which one?) b) she was killed "for being part of a violent mob" (I'd love the precedent to legally deal with liberal brownshirts) c) by a person who was defending themselves (legal self-defense)
.. Why do you think the officer who killed Babbit will ever be the subject of any court proceeding?
I don't. My view of this third-world country is too dim. And you therefore cannot claim anything about characterization of her killing as self-defense or otherwise justified. So illegal murder it is.
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