My '87 F150 passed 350k on the move back east. Original motor and trans. Of course, all the plastic parts are deteriorating and cracking and I have to be super careful with the wiring harness when I unplug anything
My friend's dad is the mileage king though. Older VW Jetta diesel that gets over 50 mpg and has over 500k on the original engine. He lives in Olalla and worked at Boeing
But but but...What about emissions? VW did have that diesel emissions scandal and all...
...Those spew a lot of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in the process of refining a material destined for your zero-emissions car. In fact, manufacturing an electric vehicle generates more carbon emissions than building a conventional car, mostly because of its battery, the Union of Concerned Scientists has found.
"Spewing" CO2 into the atmosphere is a GOOD THING, we should be doing more of that....C02 the gas of life
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5 year old article.. is decades behind technology a month after it is published. In the last 5 years battery and mfg tech/processes have made HUGE improvements.
Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:58 am
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5 year old article.. is decades behind technology a month after it is published. In the last 5 years battery and mfg tech/processes have made HUGE improvements.
How has the mining technology improved?
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Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:00 am
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5 year old article.. is decades behind technology a month after it is published. In the last 5 years battery and mfg tech/processes have made HUGE improvements.
How has the mining technology improved?
Yes and no? No on immediate short term. Yes on it's breeding innovation. Table Salt Lithium extraction, moving to Nickle, which is less impacting to mine,
Lacey, Aberdeen, Forks, Sequim. On a LR version you can make the loop. There is also charging at Longview, Astoria, Seaside, etc down the coast that way. A west oly one is coming sometime next year that will help with the 101 travelers.
Can your Model X make it on one charge? If not, please describe how you feel the trip would do in your opinion. Also, in your opinion, how would an “average driver” do say driving around the Aberdeen/Grays Harbor area with a trip to Auburn twice a month?
Do you think one could handle a gravel road? Say, going to Wynoochee or out on the beach clam digging?
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There is tons of aftermarket support for trim components, suspension, brakes tires etc. if you want a tesla part, you need to have a VIN number and an account to order it. I can log into my app and order a part, easy. There are shops out there that can become tesla certified who can order parts directly as well. There are some well known shops Gruber, Electrified Garage that have forced Tesla to open the toybox.
That is ENCOURAGING news. I recall Rich Rebuilds asking for suspension bolts and being put through the wringer by Tesla. His story didn’t seem to end well either.
Forcing them to do what Musk stated we all could do at the beginning is good news.
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iPhone owner here.. I know it.
is the permanent connection to the mother ship aka Tesla as bad as people say it is? Are the updates to the OS seamless? Any hiccups?
How is the overall fit and finish. Are we talking Cadillac Mercedes here or Toyota? How does it compare to your Tahoe? How much can it tow? Small boat? Big boat? Is there a duty cycle on the vehicle or is it continuous use until the battery dies and on that note, how does it really act when the battery dies?
So much of the online info is muddled and half the YouTube’s just seem staged or doctored.
Thank you by the way. You’re very open about your experience and that’s refreshing. I am assuming your experience has been positive if you are putting your lovely wife in one as well.
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:34 am
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No matter what, electricity is the big limiting factor. The national energy grid is falling apart because maintenance or upgrades do not pay company shareholders dividends.
Electricity generation is limited in its ability to cope with current demand, much less the replacement of the national transportation fleet. Most current generating capacity is still coal, natural gas, and diesel - no clean air there.
Until a real viable clean affordable generating source for electricity comes along, nothing changes much. Alternative energy is not constant generation, is expensive, and prone to being unreliable eg Texas wind going down last year because it was too cold for the equipment to function, or, snow on solar panels.
Even if the magic bullet for unlimited energy generation came along, it would take a century just to build the generating capacity, upgrade the grid, and create a national transfer station network to recharge vehicles. Similar to the period where horses were replaced by petroleum based tractors, trucks, autos, etc.
The current narrative just points to a future where personal transportation is priced out of reach for all but there ruling class. The masses will have to live in hive cities taking mass transit, a narrative that has been pushed forward relentlessly for the last century in particular.
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Taking this thread on a tangent to say that MD’s wife should be a Tesla spokesmodel.
You all can resume debating mining technology now.
Massivedesign wrote:
There are tons of EV charging options in most towns. There were plenty around me as well, but with the push for EVs, there needs to be more, and they need to be faster and more reliable.
Brakes, suspension, window regulator are all normal stuff. Nothing super custom and are replaced the same as ICE vehicles. Headlights are sealed LED, so that could get pricey but that isn’t exclusive to EVs.
I can buy straight from Tesla any part I need and it’s actually not expensive at all. Manuals are available and it’s all snap/bolt together stuff. Easy to work on.
And as my previous post mentioned. Wife ordered her model 3 long range an hour ago. Come. Nov-Dec we will be 100% EV at our house (until summer. When kid is 15 and needs a beater ICE to learn on).
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:48 am
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Can your Model X make it on one charge? If not, please describe how you feel the trip would do in your opinion. Also, in your opinion, how would an “average driver” do say driving around the Aberdeen/Grays Harbor area with a trip to Auburn twice a month?
Do you think one could handle a gravel road? Say, going to Wynoochee or out on the beach clam digging?
My X can go 175-210 miles, depending on conditions (wind, rain, heater use etc). This is a small battery X. The newer ones are all 300+ miles. I've gone from Oly to Forks before. No problem. Charge in Aberdeen and Forks, back to Aberdeen. I am not sure if I could make it from Forks to Sequim though.. I'd really need to map that one out. Any larger battery model should be able to though.
For a daily driver it would be great! I'd have no issues at all relying on charging at home or topping up at the Supercharger for a quick load of electrons. You can make it to Auburn from Aberdeen. MAY need to stop in Lacey real quick for a juice up.. There is a charger in Auburn as well as Federal Way.
Gravel roads? No problem! Beach, no problem there either.. Just remember it's a heavy ass car + soft sand = possible issues.
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That is ENCOURAGING news. I recall Rich Rebuilds asking for suspension bolts and being put through the wringer by Tesla. His story didn’t seem to end well either.
Rich started the revolution and is now part owner of Electrified Garage. There is also a plethora of parts available online 9eBay, salvage yards etc). Teslas are now the most produced vehicle, so the elusiveness of finding parts is gone. A read a recent stat that the model 3 is selling at a rate 24 cars/min worldwide.
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is the permanent connection to the mother ship aka Tesla as bad as people say it is? Are the updates to the OS seamless? Any hiccups?
How is the overall fit and finish. Are we talking Cadillac Mercedes here or Toyota? How does it compare to your Tahoe? How much can it tow? Small boat? Big boat? Is there a duty cycle on the vehicle or is it continuous use until the battery dies and on that note, how does it really act when the battery dies?
So much of the online info is muddled and half the YouTube’s just seem staged or doctored.
Thank you by the way. You’re very open about your experience and that’s refreshing. I am assuming your experience has been positive if you are putting your lovely wife in one as well.
The mothership connection is seamless. No issues. OS updates are infrequent, lots of bug fixes and 2 big upgrades per year it seems. If you have FSD capable car, you will get more updates as you will have MCU2 or 3 and AP3 computers. Never a hiccup... Car lets me know there is an update, I hit download. It lets me know it is ready for install, I hit install. 50 min later, done. The Tesla phone app is nice as well.
Fit and finish... it's not great if you are coming from a Cadillac, but acceptible if you are coming from a corolla. Interior tech is fucking amazing. Seats are nice, materials are nice.. Panel gaps, wind noise and dash trim that can creak get annoying. All those are fixable though. The delivery QC is a joke, so you have to QC the shit out of it yourself.
My X tows and is rated at 6,000lbs, EASILY. Like there is nothing behind it. Range is cut in half though. I have no regrets vs. the tahoe other than I really liked carplay i the tahoe. The X handled last years snow like a friggen champion. Adjustable air suspension let me jack up the car nice and high so I wasn't a huge plow.
The vehicle will perform linear, even as the battery degrades. All you will see is severely reduced range. Tesla will let you know something is wrong before you even know because.. mothership. Have to watch the 12v battery though, those like to give up the ghost and need to be replaced every few years. Normal car/type 12v though, nothing super special unless you want to pay for it.
next time you are in the Oly area, come see it, take it for a drive.
Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:04 pm
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Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 pm
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MassiveD that’s a gentlemanly offer. If I find myself in your area with free time I would love a Tesla tour from a like minded owner. I’m convinced the sales associates I have met are afraid of or annoyed by an old man in suspenders and a Kenworth trucks hat.
Rivian.. When it finally comes out in the Max Pack configuration and they get the high speed charging figured out will be a sweet ride. They need to work on the range though, 314 with terrible aerodynamics is going to be closer to 230 when there is any wind/rain/freeway speeds. Then, slap on 11k load on the back and watch that go to 100 miles real quick. It'll be interesting to see how it develops, but it will need to innovate fast because once the Cybertruck comes out with the 4860 Cells, it should dominate the market by a hefty margin... Now, if they could only make the cybertruck look decent...
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