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"Laughs in Tesla" ~ Big D
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Massivedesign
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Cool. So this isn’t about teslas anymore?
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:08 pm |
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Alpine
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When Teslas don't connect to the power grid and stop being a mandated and subsidized product then electricity policy won't be about them.
In theory I don't mind people having electric cars. But they are becoming a vehicle for mandating that people can ONLY have electric cars and meanwhile our energy supply is reducing in proportion to the population and the people in charge have no qualms about cutting people off from the basics of society if they don't like those people (social credit systems, digital currency, social media review before getting civil rights and now controlling an electrical grid which will also happen to be the only way to get your car to move around).
In China if your social credit score isn't high enough you can't buy a plane ticket or sometimes even a train ticket and near the urban centers everything requires a smartphone and the party app. I'm sure the Chinese would love to get electric cars they can control through the grid as well except they have an even bigger energy shortage than we do which is why the joke known as the Paris agreement allows them to keep increasing emissions for decades as a "developing nation."
Tl;Dr: EVs are the environazis latest attempt to control behavior and eventually slim down the amount of personal automobiles that exist (expense, electricity availability and expense, electrical distribution, etc)
How does everyone feel about "smart guns?" See the analogy?
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:16 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Massivedesign wrote: Cool. So this isn’t about teslas anymore? Attachment: 720ede06-23a4-48b0-965b-73ddcf077bbd.jpg
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Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:27 pm |
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lamrith
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TechnoWeenie wrote: lamrith wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: Massivedesign wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: How well do Teslas take to be submerged???? Asking for a friend in Tampa.... Better than gas cars. Care to elaborate/justify? EV are actually really well waterproofed and unlike ICE they do not need air to function, at all. Good thing it's self driving, because I don't think the driver would function well without air. Pfffft insignificant detail. Just evolve faster so you don't need air... CQBgopher wrote: Electric cars are great. The infrastructure is not in place to make them an immediate replacement like for like for most applications of automobilia(sp?). However, the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways wasn't technically "complete" until 1992 either. So relax a little bit.
There is plenty of electricity to go around. The bottleneck is the grid. However, that is an easier fix than the pundits would like you to believe, and those in vehement denial of that FACT are of similar ilk to those who NIMBY grid expansion on a daily basis.
As as far as the marketing wank in regards to 'zero sum emissions' and/or 'green energy' goes, it's like asking an accountant what 2+2 = ? Thank you. Pretty sure it has been said before here and I know in many other places. EV is in it's infancy. "ICE" vehicles at this time in their development were just inventing the pneumatic tire... This big problem right now is all the Dick-Taters in charge mandating shit. They need to F right the hell off and let the free market do it's thing. EV has made significant strides all on it's own in features, range, charging, etc in the last few years and is at the point demand out strips supply, that drives production and thus development all on it's own. Tax credit got nixed for most people. I have noticed a slight drop in EV demand from it, but they are still flying off lots normally before they arrive. It may also drive prices down and get rid of some of the extreme markups the market has seen.
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bubblewhip
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Why don't you guys go on reddit or something if you are so eager for liberal answers to your arguments?
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:49 am |
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Alpine
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Why? Plenty here.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:02 am |
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bubblewhip
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Alpine wrote: Why? Plenty here. Anyone accused you of being a minority oppressing genociding colonial, destroying the planet yet? No? The libs ain't here bud, you are just preaching to the choir but yelling at people who aren't singing as loud as the rest.
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:24 am |
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Alpine
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bubblewhip wrote: Alpine wrote: Why? Plenty here. Anyone accused you of being a minority oppressing genociding colonial, destroying the planet yet? No? Yes, but last time I linked to search results here showing that I was told it was a CoC violation. So you'll have to search on your own.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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AR15L
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:44 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Tesla owners aren't allowed to own chainsaws/lawnmowers/go-carts or commit arson now? C'MON MAN!?!
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:45 pm |
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AR15L
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Massivedesign wrote: Tesla owners aren't allowed to own chainsaws/lawnmowers/go-carts or commit arson now? C'MON MAN!?! Chainsaws/lawnmowers/go-carts all come in full electrics now. I'll give you the arson thing, though.
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:52 pm |
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Alpine
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Massivedesign wrote: Tesla owners aren't allowed to own chainsaws/lawnmowers/go-carts or commit arson now? C'MON MAN!?! Seatthell is on the verge of banning gasoline powered lawn and yard tools or maybe they've already done it. I know before I left the Island they were on the verge of doing it to. The leftists especially hate gas powered leaf blowers.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:21 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Massivedesign wrote: Tesla owners aren't allowed to own chainsaws/lawnmowers/go-carts or commit arson now? C'MON MAN!?! All have electric versions now, and Li battery packs ignite pretty readily when punctured... 18650s dropped in a fuel tank work great.....
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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RocketScott
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I think it’s the license plate that’s the pièce de résistance
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:55 pm |
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jorgeu
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is there such thing as electric arson?
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Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:39 pm |
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