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The Gargantuan Effort to Prosecute the January Insurrection
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SurfPerch
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_________________ “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
― Ronald Reagan Oct. 27, 1964
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:55 pm |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5862
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I don't mind if the Not Foolin' Around Coalition marched with loaded weapons to protest anywhere, nothing happened.
However the National Guard went in without loaded weapons and zero roundage.
But there seems to be a bit of difference between the response between NFAC, Antifa, BLM and Jan 6 marches. There were reports of Antifa dressing in MAGA gear and disrupting things, and being bad.
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Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:45 am |
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Alpine
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SPD has fired two of the officers found to be in DC on 1/6, even though neither has been charged with a crime. Hope they sue the shit out of them.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:48 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 51919
Real Name: Steve
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Alpine wrote: SPD has fired two of the officers found to be in DC on 1/6, even though neither has been charged with a crime. Hope they sue the shit out of them. It's such bullshit. And one of the reasons is that they allegedly watched a riot, and did nothing about it. Ummmmm . . . isn't that exactly what the city expects from its police officers?!!
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Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:38 pm |
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Alpine
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I wonder if the union will help them, after all the SPG got thrown under the bus when the MLK labor council ejected them last year.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:56 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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MadPick wrote: Alpine wrote: SPD has fired two of the officers found to be in DC on 1/6, even though neither has been charged with a crime. Hope they sue the shit out of them. It's such bullshit. And one of the reasons is that they allegedly watched a riot, and did nothing about it. Ummmmm . . . isn't that exactly what the city expects from its police officers?!! No jurisdiction, or authority to arrest (other than as a citizen), not to mention no equipment, and no backup.... Just.... no. Should be an easy win for a lawsuit.
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Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:21 am |
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Pablo
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YOU will do as the Democrat Party Dictates.
Absolutely Pelosi is driving this POLITICALLY.
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Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:33 am |
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hadati
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https://nationalfile.com/january-6-deta ... -of-abuse/This breaks my heart. Here we have hundreds of average citizens who have been held in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day, without being able to talk to a lawyer privately or have evidence presented against them in a speedy trial in front of a jury of their peers. While at the same time, known arsonists and rioters in Portland were not prosecuted or even held overnight after attacking the federal building for weeks. Justice is dead in America when people of one political affiliation have their rights trampled while others are not held accountable for anything.
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Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:34 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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hadati wrote: https://nationalfile.com/january-6-detainees-sing-national-anthem-to-boost-morale-amid-reports-of-abuse/
This breaks my heart. Here we have hundreds of average citizens who have been held in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day, without being able to talk to a lawyer privately or have evidence presented against them in a speedy trial in front of a jury of their peers. While at the same time, known arsonists and rioters in Portland were not prosecuted or even held overnight after attacking the federal building for weeks. Justice is dead in America when people of one political affiliation have their rights trampled while others are not held accountable for anything. I'm surprised someone hasn't set up an anti-arrest QRF, to be honest.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:08 pm |
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Pablo
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hadati wrote: https://nationalfile.com/january-6-detainees-sing-national-anthem-to-boost-morale-amid-reports-of-abuse/
This breaks my heart. Here we have hundreds of average citizens who have been held in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day, without being able to talk to a lawyer privately or have evidence presented against them in a speedy trial in front of a jury of their peers. While at the same time, known arsonists and rioters in Portland were not prosecuted or even held overnight after attacking the federal building for weeks. Justice is dead in America when people of one political affiliation have their rights trampled while others are not held accountable for anything. \ WHERE ARE ALL THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYERS??
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Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:05 pm |
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jukk0u
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Forget the ACLU or any liars lawyers; it seems the judge has already pre-judged the defendants: "Beryl Howell, the chief judge of the federal court in Washington deluged with more than 550 prosecutions from the Capitol riot, raised questions about why some defendants were being permitted to resolve their criminal cases by pleading guilty to a misdemeanor and why the amount of money prosecutors are seeking to recover through those plea deals was based on a relatively paltry estimate of about $1.5 million in damages caused by the rioters." https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... n=20210810
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Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:12 pm |
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olydemon
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/Quote: EXCLUSIVE - FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated-sources
WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.
Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."
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Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:36 am |
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Pablo
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olydemon wrote: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/ Quote: EXCLUSIVE - FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated-sources
WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.
Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages." 10:1 when FBI does the Rice/Karmala approved press release it's contrary to this Reuters story.
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Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:12 am |
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Pablo
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Not sure if right and proper place, but a whole bunch of things over the last (X=?) years point to a hell of a LOT of politicization of all the branches of the military, DIA, CIA and maybe worse, the FBI and IRS and of course the ATF. When did this shit begin in earnest?
Part of the downfall.
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Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:11 am |
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olydemon
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Pablo wrote: Not sure if right and proper place, but a whole bunch of things over the last (X=?) years point to a hell of a LOT of politicization of all the branches of the military, DIA, CIA and maybe worse, the FBI and IRS and of course the ATF. When did this shit begin in earnest?
Part of the downfall. JFK? OKC? 9/11? or earlier?
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Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:41 am |
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