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os2firefox
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Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798
Real Name: Snek on de ladder
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Yeah, pretty much can't find anyone who will work with people younger than 35/40 right now.
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Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:14 am |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9266
Real Name: Young
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And this is the biggest impact age group.
Because you will pay for this for over 20-30 years and then get $36,000.
Biggest threat is… No guarantee that “premiums” won’t be increase over those years.
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Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:46 am |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454
Real Name: Johnny 5
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oldkim wrote: And this is the biggest impact age group.
Because you will pay for this for over 20-30 years and then get $36,000.
Biggest threat is… No guarantee that “premiums” won’t be increase over those years. How the fuck is ANY of this legal? How soon before we can start the tarring and feathering?
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:13 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9266
Real Name: Young
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I know people are pissed and mad.
It’s too late to be mad and bitch about why and how.
It’s Go Time as if you only have this time to Opt Out. Once November 1 comes around. No amount of talking is going to do a darn thing.
It becomes by default YOUR LTC for LIFE.
You only have now until Oct 31st to have one signed sealed and delivered to then apply to Opt Out. The private LTC equivalent policy has to be LIVE by Nov 1, 2021.
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:38 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454
Real Name: Johnny 5
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oldkim wrote: I know people are pissed and mad.
It’s too late to be mad and bitch about why and how.
It’s Go Time as if you only have this time to Opt Out. Once November 1 comes around. No amount of talking is going to do a darn thing.
It becomes by default YOUR LTC for LIFE.
You only have now until Oct 31st to have one signed sealed and delivered to then apply to Opt Out. The private LTC equivalent policy has to be LIVE by Nov 1, 2021. What if you're not a WA resident but working in WA?
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:43 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9266
Real Name: Young
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Good try. Lol
It’s where is your W2 is printed. Doesn’t matter where you reside. It’s where is your check cut.
So - money they take and you pay. Too bad if it doesn’t mean you benefit. It’s not an individual benefit. It’s meant for vast public. Big picture viewpoint.
My private LTC isn’t meant for Big Picture. It covers me and my wife. And I determine when I stop or continue it.
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:41 pm |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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TechnoWeenie wrote: oldkim wrote: I know people are pissed and mad.
It’s too late to be mad and bitch about why and how.
It’s Go Time as if you only have this time to Opt Out. Once November 1 comes around. No amount of talking is going to do a darn thing.
It becomes by default YOUR LTC for LIFE.
You only have now until Oct 31st to have one signed sealed and delivered to then apply to Opt Out. The private LTC equivalent policy has to be LIVE by Nov 1, 2021. What if you're not a WA resident but working in WA? Still has to pay. Lots of my colleagues live outside WA but based here, they are all pretty upset.
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:54 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454
Real Name: Johnny 5
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Liddlebit81 wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: oldkim wrote: I know people are pissed and mad.
It’s too late to be mad and bitch about why and how.
It’s Go Time as if you only have this time to Opt Out. Once November 1 comes around. No amount of talking is going to do a darn thing.
It becomes by default YOUR LTC for LIFE.
You only have now until Oct 31st to have one signed sealed and delivered to then apply to Opt Out. The private LTC equivalent policy has to be LIVE by Nov 1, 2021. What if you're not a WA resident but working in WA? Still has to pay. Lots of my colleagues live outside WA but based here, they are all pretty upset. So, they're paying for a service they're not legally allowed to use?
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:42 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9266
Real Name: Young
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So if you want to play that scenario out. They would pay for say the 10 years. They would be “vested” and when it’s time to collect the benefit - they would move and become WA residents for the 3-6 months that they can collect. Say $3,000-$6,000 a month ($36,000 max).
But otherwise in the real world. Not really.
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:37 pm |
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vic_b
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Location: Maple valley Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 Posts: 3528
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They haven’t said a word about this where I work. Since we are federally funded, I’m wondering if I’m going to be exempt.
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Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:00 pm |
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sportsdad60
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Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8587
Real Name: Brian
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It's a state taxed SS. The dems will be able to draw off of it like Fed do with SS. Pyramid scheme. When the state runs short on budget they will dip into it.
_________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson
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Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:20 pm |
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exArmyMP
Location: Lacey Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 Posts: 88
Real Name: Jonathan
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vic_b wrote: They haven’t said a word about this where I work. Since we are federally funded, I’m wondering if I’m going to be exempt. You might want to dig a little deeper into this to make sure. I work on JBLM as a Federal Employee and we are exempt from this tax and the Family Leave tax but the Contractor who works with us was told she will be paying into it. From what I understand if your pay doesn't come directly from a Federal payroll system like DFAS then you will pay into it.
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Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:18 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307
Real Name: Dan
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At the beginning of all this, I reached out to a few companies. One of them, Bankers Life is still providing LTC insurance, but only for those 50 and over. I don't need this because (besides I am under 50) have an employer plan that beats the LTC requirements so I can exempt out. If you want his information: Tyson Bryant Bankers Life - Office 5094 Direct Line: +1(253)274-5364 Email: tyson.bryant@bankerslife.comIn his email to me today: Quote: Dan,
Thanks so much for reaching out and being willing to refer some of your family and friends for me to help. I truly enjoy my job and love helping people avoid this outrageous tax. Like we discussed, I have attached: 1. My Bankers Bio - which talks a little bit about me and my company. 2. A flier about the new state tax, directly from the government website - wacaresfund.wa.gov 3. Our Fundamental Long Term Care brochure. Even still, most people have not heard about this tax and will be taxed until retirement if they do not get a policy issued before November 1st. My job is to educate our community, whether they plan to buy a policy or not. I am not a high-pressure sales kind-of guy and would love to even answer questions about it to anyone concerned. My contact info is below, as well as on the bio attachment. I look forward to helping the people you care about avoid this tax.
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Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:25 pm |
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User 1234
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2018 Posts: 1126
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If your employer has not signed the Association of Washington Businesses’ letter to the governor opposing this train wreck please ask them to do so.
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Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 am |
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chich627
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Location: Seatac Joined: Thu Feb 2, 2012 Posts: 501
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DGM33 wrote: Massivedesign wrote: Jacy, as an employer you can get a group plan for your employees and do a paycheck deduction. I’m trying. Haven’t found anyone who will do a group for less than 100 employees anymore. And others who just flat out won’t do any new plans. Jacy, I spoke with my Allstate agency yesterday and they said they do groups over 10. Jeremy Olsen is my agent.
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:52 am |
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